Stanley Ann Soetoro’s Divorce Papers: Where’s Obama?

by Phil on 12/19/2008

DecaLogosIntl.org, a main source for information on Broe v. Reed, published an article yesterday containing a PDF of Stanley Ann Soetoro’s divorce paperwork. Their key question: “Was Obama adopted by his Step Father[?]… See for yourself:”

PDF document:

-Phil

There are 28 comments in this article:

  1. 12/19/2008St. Lucie says:

    The divorce papers specifically states custody of Minor child(ren)-under the age of 18. Barry would have been age 19.

  2. 12/19/2008Phil says:

    St. Lucie,
    I think the “catch” is where the clause also states any children over 18 and still a dependent.
    -Phil

  3. 12/19/2008cg says:

    The sections where Maya is mentioned, specifically says “minor children”.

    So, I’m not sure what’s proved or disproved regarding adoption. It looks moot, as far as this document is concerned.

  4. 12/19/2008Kris says:

    Would there even be a mention of any other child dependent upon both parties involved if that child was considered only a child of the mother? Why would the father in this case be considered responsible for a child of the mother only and therefore have to sign agreement to the decision made also including specifically that child? Wouldn’t only the child considered to be legally belonging to the father be mentioned for such future activities such as visitation?

  5. 12/19/2008Deb says:

    Can a child at the age of 19 be considered a dependent??

    I thought only if he/she was a full time student and that was only for health ins. to continue under the parents plan..

  6. 12/19/2008Eric says:

    Deb,
    While in college, I was a dependant until at least age 21. My father was retired from the Army and I had a military dependant’s ID card and had medical coverage through the military.
    Eric

  7. 12/19/2008Stock says:

    An interesting document. Chock full of possibility, if it had only mentioned Barry Soetoro by name that would have been really good. But, working with what youve got-there does appear to be some degree of inference that both are children of the marriage-but I would check this out with a family law expert-who can reference Hawaiian law, as to what this might in fact mean.

  8. 12/19/2008Tracy says:

    It’s my understanding that this divorce document proves that Obama was adopted by Lolo Soetoro. By default, it would therefore also confirm BO’s name change to Soetoro & the fact that BO automatically became an Indonesian citizen due to the adoption (according to Indonesian law). There are school records out there that have his name as Barry Soetoro & state his citizenship as Indonesian as well. BO would NOT have been mentioned as a child of the marriage between Ann & Lolo on this document if he HAD NOT been legally adopted. BO’s adoption, name change to Soetoro, Indonesian citizenship etc. is all relevant to the case. This document proves that Obama was (& probably still is) an Indonesian citizen (per the adoption) in addition to operating under the name Barack Obama (when his legal name is more than likely still Barry Soetoro). If BO never became “naturalized” when he came back to the USA from Indonesia, he’s still an Indonesian citizen & currently an illegal alien in this country. The name problem is just as important (if not more so) than the natural born problem in implicating BO for fraud, perjury etc. If he never legally changed his name to Barack H. Obama, then he’s still Barry Soetoro & anything that he signs using the Obama name, ie. legal documents, legislation, his name on the ballot for any elections, marriage etc., would all be fraudulent. In addition, BO signed his Illinois bar application under the name Barack Obama & also swore that he had never operated under any other names (which simply isn’t true). The bar application asks for any FULL FORMER NAMES to be disclosed (under penalty of perjury). Supposedly, he left that area blank & did not disclose the Soetoro information which means that he committed perjury on his bar application. God only knows what else we’ll discover about Barry O when all is said & done. It’s one twisted mess.

  9. 12/19/2008Lawyer says:

    Very interesting clues. Need to research Hawaii law. But I am curious?

    What name did the children (Maya, Barry) retain after the divorce?

    How would those who are emanicipated minors be called legally?

    What passport did Barry/Barack use to go to Pakistan in 1980 when his parents divorced? Probably Indonesian under the name of Barry Soetoro.

    This information is just another piece of the puzzle.

  10. 12/19/2008Deb says:

    Eric,
    Thank you, I understand that..

    I’m not sure if there is such a thing,or what you would call it but , is there a difference between Financial dependent and benefit dependent?
    The reason I question it, My daughter was able to stay on my Ins. policy while in college, yet I was unable to claim her on my taxes..And she lived at home while going to college..

  11. 12/19/2008CalifGirlInMaine says:

    Although Barry is not mentioned by name, on pg. 1, #3, it specifically states that “The parties have” 1 child below 18 and 1 child above 18, still dependent for education. Barry would not be considered a child of both Ann and Lolo unless he were adopted by Lolo — which would make his legal name Barry Soetoro. Unless he had a legal name change, that is still his legal name. I don’t know if the court papers would be public record or not (I would tend to think so), but name changes must also be announced in the newspaper a certain number of times. Could be Honolulu papers, Los Angeles papers, or New York papers — or maybe even Chicago — depending on where he was when he did it, IF he did.

    Back issues of newspapers are often available on microfilm in libraries, and probably the newspaper offices as well.

  12. 12/19/2008Jim says:

    Looks to me as if BHO would be the over 18 dependent,
    interesting is the date, as wouldn’t he have been Soetoro still when his Selective Service form says Obama”?

  13. 12/19/2008Patriot says:

    So his intials are not BHO after all, but BS! That’s a joke!

  14. 12/19/2008stevec says:

    Maya Soetoro [google it] Results 1 – 10 of about 271,000 for maya soetoro.

    What name did the children (Maya, Barry) retain after the divorce?

    Most likely the same name he used to register in college, Barry Soetoro. Another reason he will not release college records, or financial statements.

    What passport did Barry/Barack use to go to Pakistan in 1980 when his parents divorced? Probably Indonesian under the name of Barry Soetoro.

  15. 12/20/2008David says:

    This shows to me that Barry was 19 at the time. It does not show that Barry was entitled to go back to using his first name as his mother was.
    Nothing new here. This just shows what we already known.
    He was adopted…went to school in Indonesia as Barry Soetoro…He is a muslim that hates America, whites, his mother, freedom…he is a socialist, supports terrorism, has terrorist friends…does dirty business…lies a lot…
    My comuter is running out of ink telling the truth about BO…or was it BS…hell, don’t both of those stink?

  16. 12/21/2008Richard Lawrence says:

    I have always thought that the ‘Soetoro’ chameleon became BHO, jr. using the name of his goat-herding Harvard papa (if it even was his father) because then he could:

    (a) have an ‘in’ being the son-of-a-?, well … alumnus and

    (b) possibly scam Harvard out of tuition or scholarship $$$

    (c) throw Harvard off the Indonesian trail and claim foreign student status as a Kenyan national

    Yes, the Harvard trust $$$, scholarship committee & fund, probably got duped or razzle-dazzled by the Abomination.

    C’mon, Harvard … are you THAT gullible and carefree with your scholarship $$$ ???

    Richard Lawrence in Florida

  17. 12/22/2008steven artus says:

    I have long known obama to be a con artist and street hustler. Too bad no one ever believed me. I have also known for a very long time that obama is/was a muslim.Although I’m not a muslim myself I have read the Koran, and I know what it says about thoes who convert FROM ISLAM TO NAOTHER RELIGEON,and what they can expect.AYMAN AL ZAWAHRI the #2 man in Al-Quaida knows obama converted to socalled christianity but rather issue a fatwah on obama he prefers to call him a “HOUSENIGRO”. Koranic (SHARIA LAW) demands strong punishment with no exceptions. alZawahri is able to recite the Koran verbatum from cover to cover, he obama and I know exactly what the Koran says.He obqama and I know exactly what fate awaits obama. Now, you muslims out there payattention and take notes, ans fill in the blanks. The Koran says,”Anyone who converts from Islam to another religeon must be——.” Where is the outrage? Where is the anger? These are the muslims who destroy property and kill people over some stupid cartoons.

  18. 12/22/2008Marie says:

    In this case, the child, Barry Soetoro, was a dependent for the the purpose of education as the document states.

    In the US and also in HI at the time, only an adoptive parent could be called upon to pay for a child’s education. This is positive proof that the HI court considered Barry an adoptive child. And since Barry never applied for a return of his citizenship, he is not even a US citizen. The democrats have put an Indonesian in as President. That’s what the majority gets for not investigating before voting.

  19. 12/23/2008john mirse says:

    Are any lawyers named on the divorce papers still living? Is the file still available in the lawyers’ office?

    My point is this: Since both Obama’s mother and stepfather are now dead, maybe the client privilege rule does not apply in this case anymore.

    That is, a lawyer who questions Obama’s presidential eligibility should be free to legally examine the divorce file in order to see if there is anything in the file that tells us that Obama was adopted or not adopted by Soetoro.

  20. 12/23/2008TurnRight says:

    Jim – Yours is a very interesting comment.

    hmmmmm!

  21. 12/23/2008TurnRight says:

    john mirse –

    I’ve seen you around the net… CalifGirlInMaine too… others also. What’s needed, it seems to me is a giant clearing house for parcelling out tasks and central information gathering on this whole Obama nightmare. There’s adoption to be looked into and clarified… and Canadian birth, Kenyan birth, Hawaiian birth, college admissions records, yearbooks, school friendships, draft registration issues, Chicago corruption, Logan Act violations in Kenya – Canada – and Indonesia, destruction of evidence in Indonesia through our American Samoa representative, false personation of an officer of the United States, illegal alien voting, financial fraud… I quit listing, ok? There’s more. This guy lives in the dirt.

    Should we keep our favorite blogs and in addition port over to one that allows us all to cooperate in the kind of operation needed?

    TurnRight

  22. 12/24/2008jerry alford says:

    hi marie, my name is jerry and im new to this post. one thing that everyone seems to be missing is the fact that when barrys mom delivered him, she was only 18yrs.old. as i understand it ,the law at that time(1961) stated that she was not old enough to convey citizenship to barry?barak?. she had to be 19yrs.old to do that. so, the only citizenship he had was british?kenyan at birth. taking indonsean citizenship made him a dual citizen of kenya and indonsean. he never had u.s. citizenship to lose. as far as any one can determine, barry never came through immigration, so you are probably correct, he may very well be an illegal alien.

  23. 01/2/2009Kelvin says:

    I read at this document at least 3 times. They only mention Maya Soetoro as a dependent. Obama’s status is mentioned but not his name. Mainly because he was pretty much an adult. It’s obvious that Ann Dunham never requested any child support, just sole custody of Maya. So there’s no smoking gun here.

  24. 01/7/2009Jon Carlson says:

    Older typewriters lacked a No. 1 key so a small L key was used. All small L’s in the divorce papers the same EXCEPT the small L (No. 1) claimed to represent Obama. Also grossly out of alignment with its ‘compainion’ small L.

    All Ann Dunham signatures a total mismatch for Ann Dunham writing samples circa high school days. View the samples with source links:

    http://home.att.net/~south.tower/Annwriting1.htm

    Same story on the Obama divorce papers. A legitimate signature is the prime requirement to make a court document legal. Andy Martin said he copied divorce papers in Honolulu. Doesn’t sound like a secure situation like easy to substitute doctored documents.

  25. 01/14/2009Toria says:

    John Mirse,
    Your comment is great. I was just going to post the exact same concept. We need a lawyer to contact these people/ lawyer to lawyer more apt to talk. Google these attorney names, others are on top of it as well.
    Burke McPheeters Bordner & Estes
    3100 Mauka Tower, Pacific Guardian Center
    737 Bishop Street
    Honolulu, Hawaii 96813
    Telephone:(808) 523-9833 Facsimile:(808) 528-1656
    Email: bmbe@bmbe-law.com

    http://www.bmbe-law.com/contact/bscont.htm

    Gilardy William H ESQ in Honolulu, Hawaii (hi)
    Name: Gilardy William H ESQ
    Street: 1620 Ala Moana Boulevard Suite 510
    Honolulu, hi 96815-1437
    Phone: (808) 237-4100
    The Betrayal » Call For Action – No verification of legal name …
    The attorney for Stanley Ann’s divorce in 1980, “Gilardy H William Jr,” went on to become Hawaii DNC state attorney, as said in this 1998 article: “High …
    http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=576 – 61k

  26. 01/14/2009Toria says:

    Reply to John Mirse comment. The lawyers in the divorce are alive. A lawyer to lawyer call would probably gain more information than Joe Public. Google this law firm and names, most interesting.

    Burke McPheeters Bordner & Estes
    3100 Mauka Tower, Pacific Guardian Center
    737 Bishop Street
    Honolulu, Hawaii 96813
    Telephone:(808) 523-9833 Facsimile:(808) 528-1656
    Email: bmbe@bmbe-law.com

    http://www.bmbe-law.com/contact/bscont.htm

    Gilardy William H ESQ in Honolulu, Hawaii (hi)
    Name: Gilardy William H ESQ
    Street: 1620 Ala Moana Boulevard Suite 510
    Honolulu, hi 96815-1437
    Phone: (808) 237-4100
    The Betrayal » Call For Action – No verification of legal name …
    The attorney for Stanley Ann’s divorce in 1980, “Gilardy H William Jr,” went on to become Hawaii DNC state attorney, as said in this 1998 article: “High …
    http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=576 – 61k

  27. 01/17/2009Done says:

    You are missing the pages that state they have 2 children 1 a minor the other not a minor and attending the University.

  28. 03/11/2009Polarik says:

    “All Ann Dunham signatures a total mismatch for Ann Dunham writing samples circa high school days. View the samples with source links.”

    When I first viewed the signatures on the divorce papers, I had not seen Ann’s writing on her photo and in the yearbook. Those would be typical samples ofa left-handed writer — but, in a much later photo of Annas an adult, she has a pen or pencil in her right hand.

    The only way for the divorce signatures to match those on the photo and yearbook would be if (a) Ann had an injury or neuromuscular disorder to her writing hand, and/or (b) she switched from writing lefty to righty.

    However, even with people who are ambidextrous, signing with either hand produces similarities in the structure of the handwriting.

    When I first viewed the divorce paper signatures, I found them to be very deliberate in their execution, with the Soetoro signature seeming even more forced.

    In contrast, there is an even and consistent flow in her writings on the photo and yearbook.

    The basic structure of a person’s handwriting at 18 would be the same at 28, especially one’s signature. Signatures are very resistant to change unless a person deliberately wishes to change them and spends several hours per day until he or she can write it without thinking about it.

    Personality changes can also affect handwriting just as physical changes can.

    The most notable discrepancies are in the way she signs “Stanley.”

    In her photo and yearbook signatures, the “S” is always disconnected from the rest of the name. There is also evidence of separating initial capital letters from the small case letters in her yearbook comments.

    The second most distinguishing feature is found in how she writes a case “t” in lower case. In the high school samples, the upper part of the “t” has no loop, but is a solid line, with the base being an inverted “v” shape.

    In all of the divorce paper samples, all of the “t’s” have large loops their upper part.

    All of the capital “S’s” in “Stanley” are separate in her high school signatures, but connected as a continuation to the loop in the “t.”

    The other striking think about the divorce paper signatures are their similarities. No two signatures by the same person are ever identical. These signatures are way too similar to have been made freely and normally.

    Couple that with my initial impressions of the divorce paper signatures looking “slow, deliberate, and forced,” and what you get are enough signs to suspect that forgery was involved.

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