Eligibility Update: More HI DoH Confusion; Muslims, Obama and Harvard; Rep. Posey, GOP Support; Grand Jury Update and More
After it had been confirmed that the online certification of live birth purportedly belonging to Mr. Obama shows signs of being less than genuine, WorldNetDaily reports that laws regarding exactly how someone’s birth occurred in Hawaii aren’t exactly clear:
The “Certification of Live Birth” posted online and presented by Barack Obama as documentation of his reported Hawaiian birth doesn’t “prove” his birth alone, according to government officials interviewed by WND.
According to State Department officials, such a short-form birth document might be accepted as documentation of a U.S. birth for a passport if it meets certain requirements. Their conclusion is that the law is “complicated.”
And state officials in Hawaii independently told WND that such documents are issued only when certain standards have been met.
But those requirements and standards leave the door open to some circumstances under which the COLB image does not prove what it purports. …
Hawaii state Registrar Dr. Alvin Onaka told WND today that most birth records stem from a hospital report. Documentation for children not born in hospitals depends on other records, such as the pregnant mother’s prenatal exams, the statement of an attending midwife and a verification of the birth of a live child.
Other listings include a “foreign” birth or a “delayed” birth.
“We would not be issuing birth certificates of individuals not born in the state of Hawaii,” he said.
In fact, Hawaiian Health Director Chiyome Fukino previously made a public statement about the controversy:
“I, and Dr. Alvin Onaka have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures,” Fukino’s statement said.
But the statement didn’t reveal what the document contains, nor has any clarification ever been released.
While Onaka documented the need for medical records and statements from a midwife, he did not cite any independent investigative procedures for a report that would be submitted by a midwife. Also, Hawaiian law specifically allows “an adult or the legal parents of a minor child” to apply to the health department and, upon unspecified proof, be given the birth document.
The only requirement for proof cited in the law doesn’t address the birth of the child either, just “that the legal parents of such individual while living without Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal resident for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.”
According to Jerry Fuller and Mike Persons of the passport services division of the U.S. State Department, a document such as the online COLB could be acceptable to prove U.S. citizenship for the purposes of getting a passport if it contains a certain number of components, such as time and date of birth, location and name.
Fuller also said birth certificates should reveal the location of the child’s birth accurately, but he confirmed there are cases known where that has not happened.
“There are some documents that say things that aren’t true,” Fuller said. “That’s not what’s supposed to happen.” …
But the vagueness of the law has produced different answers at different times.
Robert Klein Engler, who writes at Chronwatch-America.com, said he called the State Department to ask about obtaining a U.S. passport with only a “Certification of Live Birth.”
“I was told flat out, ‘No!’” he told WND.
In fact, WND got the same response from the State Department’s passport division consumer affairs line, contradicting Fuller and Persons.
Engler wrote, “‘Birthers’ are those who believe that the absence of solid proof about where Obama was born leaves many with reasonable doubts. … Even though White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs won’t admit it, I bet he suspects as others in the current regime also do, that Barack Obama was born in Kenya and is not a natural born U.S. citizen.” …
“Valid documentation of Mr. Obama’s birth is important because it is a constitutional issue. The argument that gives rise to this reasonable doubt runs something like this: The U. S. Constitution sets out qualifications to be president. One of the qualifications is that the candidate must be a ‘natural born’ citizen,” Engler wrote.
“Given this constitutional requirement, what evidence is there to prove someone is a natural born citizen? The most obvious evidence is a birth certificate that shows a person born to U. S. citizens and also born in the United States. This is the traditional proof of blood and soil,” he continued. “Is there conclusive proof that Obama fulfills the blood and soil requirements to be a ‘natural born’ U. S. citizen? The answer is, ‘NO.’ What evidence there is about his citizenship, is ambiguous evidence.” …
“There is also no conclusive proof that Mr. Obama was born on U. S. soil. He may have been born in Kenya and may at one time have been a dual citizen of both the United States and Kenya,” Engler wrote.
And since Mr. Obama will not allow anyone to see his background documentation (see link below) — including evidence of his work while at Harvard — WorldNetDaily asks the ever-so-controversial question, “Did radical Muslims help send Obama to Harvard?“:
In an appearance on the New York-produced “Inside City Hall” television show, octogenarian Harlem lawyer Percy Sutton – whose clients included Malcolm X – explained that Islamic radical Khalid Abdullah Tariq al-Mansour, “one of the world’s wealthiest men,” asked him to write a letter of recommendation to Harvard Law School for then relatively unknown Barack Obama.
In the video, Sutton says he was introduced to Obama by al-Mansour, a Saudi citizen, who “was then raising money” for Obama.
Sutton described al-Mansour as being from Texas, saying al-Mansour was the “principal adviser to one of the world’s richest men,” most likely Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal. …
Sutton says al-Mansour told him about Obama, saying in a letter, “There’s a young man that has applied to Harvard. I know that you have a few friends left there because you used to go up there to speak. Would you please write a letter in support of him?”
On air, Sutton confirmed he did write the letter, telling his friends at Harvard, “I thought there was going to be a genius that was going to be available and I certainly hoped they would treat him kindly.”
During the 2008 presidential campaign, Ben Smith of Politico reported the Obama campaign’s flat denial of Sutton’s story.
Smith was not able to get in touch with Sutton, whose advanced age had raised questions whether his memory of writing a letter of recommendation for Obama was confused.
Smith did reach al-Mansour, who confirmed Sutton was “a dear friend, his health is not good” and said he’s sure Sutton wrote a letter for someone else, “and he got it confused.”
Yesterday, WND e-mailed a request to Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor, asking that the White House release Obama’s law school records to resolve the issue.
During the 2008 presidential campaign, Vietor was a frequent spokesman for the Obama campaign’s “Fight the Smears” website, which has been removed from the Internet.
WND received no response from Vietor or from the White House press office, which was copied on the e-mail.
Investigative journalist Jack Cashill has reported in WND that al-Mansour serves on the board of, among others, Saudi African Bank and was responsible for the Africa investment activities of Kingdom Holdings, Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal’s investment company.
Cashill also noted that al-Mansour is a frequent lecturer at Harvard.
In August 2008, Amanda Carpenter documented several of al-Mansour’s screeds against Christians and Jews on YouTube.com here, here, here, andhere.
Before he abandoned his “slave name,” al-Mansour was known as Don Warden, an African-American radical who founded the Afro-American Association in the Bay Area and was instrumental in creating the Black Panthers.
The University of California Berkeley Library’s Social Activism Sound Recording Project identifies Warden as being the “mentor” of Black Panther co-founder Huey Newton.
The back cover of al-Mansour’s 1982 book “The Destruction of Western Civilization as Seen Through Islam, Christianity and Judaism” specifies al-Mansour received a degree from Harvard, where he majored in philosophy and logic, and a law degree from the University of California at Berkeley.
In a picture caption in the book, al-Mansour supports a key thesis of Black Liberation Theology, that the historical Jesus Christ was not Caucasian.
“When one looks at the descendents of the original Hebrews, it is impossible to believe that Jesus, Mary, Moses, Abraham, Solomon were white, with blue eyes and blond hair,” he writes.
James H. Cone, one of the chief proponents of Black Liberation Theology, wrote in his essay “Black Theology as Liberation Theology” that, “In the place of white Jesus, we insist that ‘Jesus Christ is black, baby!’”
For 20 years, Obama was a member of Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, which openly professed Black Liberation Theology.
WND e-mailed Politico’s Smith requesting comment on this article but received no response by publication deadline.
Rep. Bill Posey (R-FL), the Congressman who recently introduced HR1503 amending the FEC to require candidates for the presidency to provide a copy of their birth certificate as well as other documentation to substantiate their eligibility, has not only garnered a number of co-sponsors (latest count is 9) but is also attracting financial support from House GOP leadership (h/t TalkingPointsMemo):
The latest FEC filings show that Rep. Bill Posey (R-FL), the author and main sponsor of the infamous “Birther Bill” in the House to require Presidential candidates to submit proof of citizenship, is receiving financial support from some prominent people — namely, the House GOP leadership, in their regular donations to GOP incumbents.
Minority Leader John Boehner’s PAC, the Freedom Project, donated $5,000 to Posey’s campaign in June. Minority Whip Eric Cantor’s ERICPAC gave $7,500.
On the one hand, there’s nothing unusual about the leadership giving money to an incumbent. On the other hand, not every incumbent has refused to say for surethat President Obama is a U.S. citizen [emphases original]
USAToday’s Wednesday news roundup also picked up on this story.
On the citizen grand jury front, Bob Campbell, editor at AmericanGrandJury.org, recently reported that things continue to move forward for these 5th Amendment common law groupings:
We can tell you these government officials don’t like our Presentments. We have had them throw the the document in the garbage, say they don’t understand, tell us they need to go on vacation before addressing such issues, ask us to visit them in their hallowed offices to explain they are sorry, call the FBI, tell the Secret Service, hide in a corner, act like we just slapped their best friend, squirm, lie, cheat and generally defend everything about the corruption, greed and life style that supports the biggest con game in the history of the United States.
We actually had one Judge tell us our Presentments were unconstitutional. Imagine that! It is a wonder this guy could sit behind his oak stained bench and not have the people in his courtroom bust out laughing.
Important Announcements for American Grand Jury:
The American Grand Jury of July 8th concluded and voted this past week. The 38 members voted unanimously to hand down the charges against Barack Obama. This makes 10 Grand Juries in less than 3 months, plus the Super Jury that have convened and taken care of business.
More to come:
This week will see the convening of a Grand Jury with over 70 members. Starting on Wednesday we will open the jury room doors. The members will start viewing the evidence, taking the surveys and deliberating the charges. By Monday or Tuesday of next week will have a decision on the Presentments.
In the planning stage is the “13 Colonies Super Jury.” This jury will be comprised of members from every original State that founded America. We expect this Jury to be formed within the next 3 to 4 weeks.
Soon we will have a “Sun States Grand Jury.” This puts AZ, CO, NM, and NV together on the same team. [emphases original]
Carl Swensson, foreman for the Georgia citizen grand jury, similarly reports that a number of individuals are going back to Washington, D.C. starting on August 3.
In interesting news regarding the Secret Service, LiveLeak.com reported yesterday that a top agent protecting the President got fired:
A Secret Service Agent, responsible for protecting President Obama, was fired today under questionable reasons, according to top aides. The Agent was reportedly tired of overhearing personal gripes by the Obama Family about certain demograhics in the United States. The Agent, who has not been identified as of today, brought his concerns staright to the President Obama, who later had him removed from his current assignment. More to come as story unfolds.
Speaking of the Secret Service, retired Commander Walter Fitzpatrick reports that he had another bizarre experience with the federal agency:
A phone call came to this home just days after my arrival on 11 June 2009. Joesph took the call. The caller asked for “Walter Fitzpatrick,” representing himself to be with a company with “Allied” in its title.
Joe unsuccessfully pressed the caller for identification. Joe dialed toned the guy.
At the time there were only a few people who knew I was here. Of that small group, fewer still know the phone number used to call in mid-June.
I have no connections to any company with the word “Allied” in it’s title.
The call remained mysterious until this past Thursday, 16 July.
Joe and I happened to engage in an over the backyard fence neighborly conversation with the man who lives next door--a retired federal employee. Secret Service Agent Christopher Blake’s phone call here came up in our three-way discussion.
Blake called here last Monday, 13 July.
The neighbor went inside.
I was still outside when the neighbor came back out--maybe thirty minutes later--and called to me.
The neighbor told me he’d been discomfited by a metallic gun smoke silver sedan that pulled up in front of here maybe two to three weeks ago. A man and woman exited the vehicle and loitered for half an hour or so. It’s not known how thoroughly they surveilledthe property before leaving.
This is a very quiet and close community. We’resituated on a dead-end street. Unknown vehicles are noticed. Out of the ordinary occurrences are noticed.
The mysterious car and occupants nagged the neighbor’s thoughts until learning about our contact with the Secret Service.
So, Joe and I called Maryland’s Frederick County Sheriff Chuck Jenkins to report the Secret Service fortheir criminal tracking of a law-abiding citizens. (Note: Camp David is in Maryland’s Frederick County)
Patrol Sergeant Dina Blundell responded at about 1400 hours on Thursday (16 July). The March 19 first contact, the stranger’s mysterious phone from “Allied,” the strangers in the strange silver sedancanvassing this area, and Chris Blake’s call here: FOUR DISCRETE SECRET SERVICE EPISODES!
I’m being tracked. Now I and my brother are being harassed.
WHY? Because I filed a federal criminal complaint naming OBAMA/SOETORO in commission of the crime of TREASON!
Sheriff Jenkins has promised to get back to me regarding any response from Maryland state or county prosecutors (criminal complaint #: 2009-171307). Sheriff Jenkins’ phone #: 301.600.1046 (patrol). Sgt. Dina Blundell’s phone #: 301.600.3683. [emphases original]
See the following links regarding the eligibility saga:
- Obama’s Presidential Eligibility: What You Need to Know
- Obama’s Sealed Background Documentation
- What’s the Difference Between a Birth Certification Versus a Birth Certificate?
- Keyes v. Lingle: Forensic Examiner and IT Expert Disprove Certification of Live Birth
- Obama Citizenship Facts
- The State Department and Sen. Patrick Leahy’s (D-VT) Natural Born Citizen Resolution (April 10, 2008)
- Citizen Grand Jury Updates and Eligibility Lawsuit Listing
-Phil
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In an appearance on the New York-produced “Inside City Hall” 
Phil says:
July 24, 2009 at 9:44 am
…and “right-wing extremists” and “fringe,” don’t you forget.
Indeed. And now on the radar of the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Intelligence Project. (So nobody thinks they just pick on certain people, they’re equal opportunity, they list the New Black Panthers and Nation of Islam as hate groups.)
earl,
…and “right-wing extremists” and “fringe,” don’t you forget.
-Phil
James says:
July 22, 2009 at 8:11 pm
Write on your money.
By the way James, it’s illegal to deface currency.
http://www.bep.treas.gov/document.cfm/18/104
James says:
July 22, 2009 at 10:33 pm
“I think she probably thought I was a crazy kook, but then again anyone who isn’t on our side thinks so, so I don’t think it makes a difference.”
It’s because you are crazy kooks. You obviously never waited tables or you would realize no server is going to disagree with you when you start spouting your politicial beliefs before you leave the tip. When she said it was “interesting”, what she really meant was, “please just leave me a decent tip and go away you crazy kook.”
Get This!
I tried it. I went to dinner tonight. Before I paid for my food with cash (I used $20 Bill), I got a black marker and wrote on the bill “Obama, where is your birth certificate?”. I handed the bill to my server. She went off and immediately started reading what was on the bill. Her response was apparent. I watched as she showed the bill to 3 of her coworkers.
I have a feeling they were obots because they were smirking among themselves.
When my server returned with my change, I asked what she thought about my bill. She told me it was “interesting” and nothing more.
I think she probably thought I was a crazy kook, but then again anyone who isn’t on our side thinks so, so I don’t think it makes a difference.
But, certainly the MARK OF OBAMA on my bill generated reaction.
People will read what is written on money bills.
Imagine if thousands of people started doing this. The Obama eligibility issue could be spread across the nation in a matter of weeks.
So, before you pay for something with cash be sure your bills bear the MARK OF OBAMA.
It’s the newest gimmick: Check Your Dollar Bill. Does it Bear the Mark of Obama?
Just imagine what will happen when everyone starts to notice the Mark of Obama on their money billls.
Cool!
(now, how did that er get attached to Ollie’s name? – in a rush, no preview)
You can still refer to him as Commander – just like everyone refers to Lt. Col. Oliver Norther ans “Col. North”. It’s quite appropriate to shorten the version. And, btw, Col. North, because of his courage and general devotion, also got himself in a bit a muck and the “powers” also hung him out to dry — after all of his accomplishments. Didn’t do him much harm though … esp. with the patriots.
In an effort to spread Obama’s Eligibility issue across America with little ease and little cost, we should start marking our money bills with “Obama Where’s the Birth Certificate?” or a similiar tagline. Write this using black marker on your money bills.
I know this sounds crazy but imagine if thousands of people started to mark their money bills with the phrase. In just a matter weeks Obama’s eligiblity issue would spread across the country.
Next time you pay for something with cash, be sure your money bills bear the MARK OF OBAMA: “Obama, Where’s the Birth Certificate?”
Phil says:
July 22, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Point made on the Lt. Commander’s rank. That’s what happens when I rely on data simply “off the top of my head.”
OK.
“Regarding the rest of your commentary, I am certainly aware of the fact that you frequent opposition forums quite regularly and that you seem to be using my site as an opposition research dump.”
Most of your posters regularly visit many different sites. I am not dumping opposition research. I read a lot and when I see something that may not be correct, or if I know that someone may have an agenda, then I feel it is incumbent on me to point that out.
“At the moment (and as you can clearly see), I’ll allow your comment through. However, if you continue to produce such research with the clear intent of smearing an individual for the purposes of either assassinating their character and/or reducing them in some way such that they should be construed, in your view, to be ineligible to hold an opinion, I might have to change my stance.”
I would have to disagree with you Phil. I respect your blog and I do not call anyone names nor to I post anything that I cannot source. On one hand you allow posts that assassinate the character of the President with unsubstaniated rumor and innuendo. So if there is documented proof of someone’s bias or that their comments are being disingenous, I just think in the respect of equality and fair accounting, that all of the information should be out there. Nothing I said about the Lt. Commander was not true. That is not opposition research, that is allowing all of the facts to be out there and then allowing people to make an educated decision knowing everything.
“I originally enjoyed your commenting on my site because you provided a reasonably civil dissenting point of view; please don’t go overboard with a need to perform opposition research such that you continue participating in the “politics of personal destruction.”
I enjoy debating with you. But if putting all of the information means that I am disparaging someone, then I am surprised at you. If you can point out something that is not true, I will be the first to admit it and apologize.
“Thankyouverylittle.”
-Phil
You’re welcome very little.
Black Lion
Libby Jones says:
July 22, 2009 at 12:38 pm
There are moments in all of our lives that make us go….hummm. This is one of them. I just wonder why Fitzpatrick is the only one that keeps getting visits from the Feds. You would think Orly, Berg, Maj. Cook and a host of others would have at least gotten one vist–nada, nope, nothing–just Fitzpatrick.
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Are you the Libby Jones from CW’s site….I’m surprised about your wonderment….maybe it is because Lt. Com. Fitzpatrick is the only one who has filed a criminal complaint of TREASON against the FRAUD….do you think that could be the reason??? Are you still an undercover OBOT???
From our well known dubious website Wickedpedia: This is a partial listing and does not show percent of stock owned. Good possibility Harvard is really El-Harvard bin Laden University, and this is probably why Obama bows to his toes to the Arabs.
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Kingdom Holding Company (Arabic: شركة المملكة القابضة) is a public holding company, incorporated in Saudi Arabia, and is the largest company in Saudi Arabia.[1] It is controlled by Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz, and is headquartered in the city of Riyadh. The company is publicly listed in the Saudi Stock Exchange but only 6% of the shares are public, the rest is privately owned with the majority stakeholder, Prince Alwaleed holding 94% shares.[2]
The company describes itself as a diversified investment company, whose interests include banking, real estate, telecommunications, broadcasting and media, entertainment, hospitality, computers and electronics, agriculture, restaurants, upscale fashion, retailing, supermarkets, tourism, travel and automotive manufacturing.
Its international investments include (or have included)
Amazon
AOL/Time Warner
Apple Inc.
Canary Wharf
Citigroup
Coca Cola
Compaq
Disneyland Paris
eBay
Four Seasons Hotels & Resorts
Fairmont Hotels & Resorts
Ford
Hotel George V, Paris
Hewlett-Packard
McDonald’s
Motorola
Mövenpick Hotels & Resorts
News Corporation
PepsiCo
Priceline.com Inc
Procter & Gamble
The Walt Disney Company
LBCI Lebanese Broadcasting Company International
SAMBA, Saudi American Bank
Kingdom Hotels International Public company listed on Dubai International Financial Exchange
The company is known for hiring the first Saudi female pilot ever. It is also the owner of the Kingdom Center.
In July 2005, Kingdom announced a joint venture with HSBC to invest in growth companies in Sub-Saharan Africa.[3]
Black Lion,
Point made on the Lt. Commander’s rank. That’s what happens when I rely on data simply “off the top of my head.”
Regarding the rest of your commentary, I am certainly aware of the fact that you frequent opposition forums quite regularly and that you seem to be using my site as an opposition research dump.
At the moment (and as you can clearly see), I’ll allow your comment through. However, if you continue to produce such research with the clear intent of smearing an individual for the purposes of either assassinating their character and/or reducing them in some way such that they should be construed, in your view, to be ineligible to hold an opinion, I might have to change my stance.
I originally enjoyed your commenting on my site because you provided a reasonably civil dissenting point of view; please don’t go overboard with a need to perform opposition research such that you continue participating in the “politics of personal destruction.”
Thankyouverylittle.
-Phil
Phil – He hates America and wants to destroy it. That’s why.
“Investigative journalist Jack Cashill has reported in WND that al-Mansour serves on the board of, among others, Saudi African Bank and was responsible for the Africa investment activities of Kingdom Holdings, Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal’s investment company.”
It would be interesting to see what this group owns in its financial empire, and what American universities have received donations…Harvard is probably owned by them, and thus will not release records. Perhaps their assets in America should be seized until further investigation. Do they own our media, our newspapers, the associated press? Hmmmmmmm.
Article III, Section 3: “Treason against the United States, shall consist only …in adhering to their Enemies”
Barack Hussein Obahmadinejihad:
“I’ve now been in 57 States…”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws
“I know that the trust that binds the United States and Turkey has been strained, and I know that strain is shared in many places where the Muslim faith is practiced… So let me say this as clearly as I can: the United States is not and will never be at war with Islam”
“America’s relationship with the Muslim world cannot and will not be based on opposition to al Qaida.”
“We seek broad engagement based upon mutual interests and mutual respect. …We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over so many centuries to shape the world for the better, including my own country.”
“The United States has been enriched by Muslim-Americans. Many other Americans have Muslims in their family, or have lived in a Muslim-majority country… I know, because I am one of them.”
57 States: http://www.oic-oci.org/member_states.asp
Obama surrenders to the Iranian Mullahs: “My administration is now committed to diplomacy [appeasement] that addresses the full range of issues before us and to pursuing constructive ties among the United States, Iran [Mullahs] , and the international community [57 States]. This process will not be advanced by threats. We seek engagement [submission to Islam] that is honest [deceptive] and grounded in mutual respect [deception]…”
The Islamic regime of the Iranian Mullahs is an enemy of the United States.
“Prior to [the] disputed presidential election in Iran, Barack Hussein Obahmadinejihad sent a letter to the country’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei …An Iranian with knowledge of the overture …told The Washington Times that the letter was sent between May 4 and May 10 and laid out the prospect of ‘cooperation in regional and bilateral relations’ ”
All the King’s horses and all the King’s men will not be able to put the usurper together, again.
Look out! He’s starting to Fall!!
http://www.popmodal.com/video/3037/Citizen-Grand-Jury
The Citizen Grand Jury Trip to DC
Do you honestly believe this secret service story? One thing the Obama campaign was noted for was their ability to NOT LEAK stories. So now we are to believe that his TOP aides are leaking stories, especially about Pres. Obama’s family and a secret service agent. That’s how fake stories and conspiracies get started–one person or blog puts it out there, with no basis in fact and it becomes viral. After that, you find it in one of Orly’s lawsuits as fact. You know and I know, for the safety of the President and others, a secret service agent never talks or let their personal feelings become involved and thank God for that.
The article above makes the following statement…
“WorldNetDaily asks the ever-so-controversial question, “Did radical Muslims help send Obama to Harvard?“:
And of course link to WND for the article. As usual rife with innuendo and rumor. No documented proof, but as we know the individuals that want to smear the President, with WND at the forefront, doesn’t really worry about whether or not the story is true, just if it can smear President Obama.
There is no evidence that President Obama ans Khalid al-Mansour ever knew each other. Nothing. Just a rumor started by Andy Martin to smear the President.
The confusion was finally put to rest when Mr. Sutton’s family released a statement saying that Percy Sutton’s statement was false, expressing regret for Sutton’s inadvertent mistake, and asked for understanding and compassion for this elderly respected public servant. You can read the statement here:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Sutton_family_retracts_Obama_story.html
Intelligent people can make up their minds. The others would rather believe in the tooth fairy, Star Wars, Dick Cheney, and a Kenyan birth conspiracy.
The secret service agent might know some things. Maybe he should get into the lawsuits or criminal complaints against BO.
There are moments in all of our lives that make us go….hummm. This is one of them. I just wonder why Fitzpatrick is the only one that keeps getting visits from the Feds. You would think Orly, Berg, Maj. Cook and a host of others would have at least gotten one vist–nada, nope, nothing–just Fitzpatrick.
Phil above cites information provided by Commander Walter Fitzpatrick.
“Speaking of the Secret Service, retired Commander Walter Fitzpatrick reports that he had another bizarre experience with the federal agency:”
Lets address the good Commander. First of all it is Lt. Commander Fitzpatrick. Let us get his rank straight.
Secondly he has an axe to grind with the President. You see Lt. Commander Fitzpatrick was relieved of his position and court-martialed. Retired Lt. Commander Fitzpatrick was:
“He was convicted on one count of being “derelict in the performance of those duties (as executive officer) in that he willfully failed to follow proper procedures for the accounting and expenditure of Morale, Welfare and Recreational Funds. . . . ” A career-ending letter of reprimand was placed in his personnel file.”
http://www.seattlepi.com/archives/1994/9404220093.asp
So we are to believe everything that the retired Navy Officer has to say? His record speaks for itself. He recieved his visits from the White House for using Naval Academy stationary to write harassing letters to the President. With that kind of history, most would be leery of associated with this man, but good old Sweenson and Campbell have him out there as a star witness. It really shows people what that supposed “American Grand Jury”, or better known as a lynch mob was all about.
Civis naturaliter natus,
At best, Mr. Obama is nothing more than a very shrewd (or very lucky) politico who has used everyone and everything to get to the presidency.
At worst, Mr. Obama ascended to the presidency with an agenda to completely transform America. Then the only question becomes, “why?”
-Phil
Civis naturaliter natus,
Allegedly;
The family;
Nothing has yet been reported.
-Phil
Phil wrote…
“After it had been confirmed that the online certification of live birth purportedly belonging to Mr. Obama shows signs of being less than genuine, WorldNetDaily reports that laws regarding exactly how someone’s birth occurred in Hawaii aren’t exactly clear:”
Confirmed by whom? There have only been 2 individuals that have claimed that President Obama’s COLB was “less than genuine”, that was the so called “Polarik” and “TechDude”. Dr. Lines, the only person to give her background and qualifications, indicated that there was no way she could make a determination regarding forgery without seeing the actual document. Polarik and Techdude made assertations regarding a document that they had never seen. And they never provided their background or qualifications, nor did they legally go on the record regarding their findings. Remember legally you cannot sign an affidavit with “XXXXXXX” and make it admissible. And his findings are not legally admissible because he never provided his qualifications nor background. And yes there have been individuals that have gone on record to dispute his findings.
http://barackryphal.blogspot.com/2009/07/on-rebutting-polariks-research.html
http://hackerfactor.com/blog/index.php?/archives/210-Bad-Science-How-Not-To-Do-Image-Analysis.html
The quotes and sections from WND throughout this article are the usual biased and uncited opinion by their usual crack staff of writers. They quote so called state department officials, but never give us someones name so that the information they state can be verified. And the one time they do quote someone’s name, those individuals support the fact that the COLB is OK to get a passport. However they quote Engler, who has an agenda, and some so called customer service line to refute that, however never giving a name of someone they spoke with.
And remember WND made this declaration back in August and has never stated that it is not true…
“A separate WND investigation into Obama’s certification of live birth utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren’t originally there.”
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=73214
They can never get past that they authenticated the President’s COLB no matter how many biased articles they write. So now that is probably their motivation to try and discredit the COLB.
If you go to the website of the US State Department they state the following about what a Birth Certificate needs to contain…
*A certified birth certificate has a registrar’s raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrar’s signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar’s office, which must be within 1 year of your birth. Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes.
The last line does indicate that some short forms may not be acceptable. However this is different than the WND article. If you look at what the requirements for an official birth certificate needs to contain, President Obama’s COLB meets all of the standards. WND attempts to mislead its readers by making you think that President Obama’s COLB does not contain the required information. However once you visit the State department’s website you see that it contains all of the required information.
http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/first/first_830.html
To repeat, all the birth certificate has to have is the following facts.
1. Your full name
2. Full name of Mother
3. Full name of Father (if known)
4. Date of Birth
5. City of Birth
6. County of Birth
7. State of Birth (persumed since it is a state birth certificate)
8. Gender
9. Date Birth Record was filed
10. Official Certification
“There is also no conclusive proof that Mr. Obama was born on U. S. soil. He may have been born in Kenya and may at one time have been a dual citizen of both the United States and Kenya,” Engler wrote.
Not true. The COLB is comclusive proof. In addition dual citizenship does not matter in regards to US citizenship. The SCOTUS ruled that in Perkins v. Elg. So Mr. Engler either did not research his facts, or he has an agenda against President Obama.
Oh, and Phil,
What do you think?
If Barry was a Christian would he ever have gotten that support from the Most wealthiest Mulsim in the world, as the former Columbia prof remembers?
Doesn’t seem so to me….
Phil,
Is that a photo of the fired SS Agent?
Who was griping: hmmmm, let me guess: Michelle?
What were the demographic groups she was griping about?
Hmms: whites?
Hmms: birthers?
Hmms: tea partiers?
Hmms: tax payers?