Citizen Grand Jury Presentments Received in DC
A number of federal officials in DC have been served presentments from citizen grand juries this past Monday. According to a recent posting from a main grand jury organizer Bob Campbell, here is texting describing the process:
UPDATES ON TRIP TO WASHINGTON (Monday June 29th):
text via phone from Chalice: posted in central time by my phone.Carl Swensson and Mack Ellis served the 11-page Presentments to President Barack Obama, at the White House for FRAUD and TREASON.
11:49am Chalice has video. (woooo hoooo documents being accepted)
11:57am Presentments in the hands of Secret Service
12:06pm 2 Secret Service, names John and Jessica, received presentmentsThey were denied entrance to the Dept of Justice (Eric Holder)
1:06 FBI has been served and they are on the way to District Court
3:05 pm They at US District Court. They were served.
3:29 We served Dept of Justice. They will get back to us. We have a judge who will review it.
3:32 We are on the House serving 4 Congressmen.
5:44pm Presentments delivered to Senate Minority Leader McConnell, TX Senators Hutchinson and Cornyn, Ron Paul, and Michelle Bachmann
They are on way back to hotel and will start again tomorrow. If I hear more details later about today, then I will post them here. [emphases original]
Carl Swennson, the foreman for the Georgia citizen grand jury, went into more detail on his site regarding the day’s events:
Presentments filed in D.C.!!!
Working on the complete list now and will post as soon as we get it complete. July 1st 11:43 A.M.
On Monday, June 29, 2009, the team met with and handed SuperAmericanGrandJury Presentments to:
1. Secret Service for the White House – SERVED
2. USDOJ – United States Dept of Justice – guards sent us instead to the FBI
3. FBI – SERVED PRESENTMENTS
4. District Court – U.S. Marshalls – We got new coverletters notarized and then the Clerks of the District Court TOOK PRESENTMENTS – a huge American THANK YOU NEEDS TO BE SENT TO JOE BURGESS ESPECIALLY and PRAY HARD FOR FAVOR WITH CHIEF MAGISTRATE JUDGE OF THE U.S. DISTRICT COURT, ROYCE LAMBERTH, WHO WILL GIVE MAIN DECISION WHEN HE SEES THESE PAPERS DELIVERED TO HIM
5. SCOTUS – Supreme Court of the United States – ALL papers must go through the guard house on the backside of the Supreme Court. Officer TOOK PRESENTMENTS, FIXED A LABEL IN OUR RECEIPT AREA WHICH HE EXPLAINED TO ME WAS THEIR SIGNATURE; HAD SUPREME COURT AND DATE AND TIME STAMPED: SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES SERVED PRESENTMENTS!!!
6. PENTAGON – CARL AND MACK – OUR BRAVE MEN SERVED PRESENTMENTS!!! (THEY WERE SURROUNDED AND SEARCHED, AND EVEN THEIR TRUCK WAS SEARCHED!)
7. On Monday, June 29, 2009, Carl and Mack delivered SuperAmericanGrandJury Presentments to Senator Ron Paul and Representative Michele Bachman!!! Penny and press covered presentments to Senators John Cornyn and Kay Bailey Hutchison, both of Texas, and Representative Randy Neugebauer of Texas, and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell!
8. From suggestions from callers the next day Tuesday, June 30, 2009, while the Carl and Mack were having FUN at the Pentagon, Press and Penny SERVED PRESENTMENTS TO:
Senator John McCain 10:10 a.m.
Senator Tom Coburn 10:15 a.m.
Senator Lamar Alexander 10:30 a.m.
Representative Louie Gohmert 11:40 a.m.
(after SCOTUS at 11:25 a.m.!)
Patrick McHenry at 11:50 a.m.
Kenny Marchant at 12:05 p.m.
Michael C. Burgess, MD at 12:20 p.m.
Marsha Blackburn at 12:35 p.m.
Nancy Pelosi at 12:55 p.m.
True Americans, that’s 16 of our Senators and Representatives SERVED PRESENTMENTS!!!
Normal, ordinary American citizens also met with the Secret Service, FBI, United States District Court, SCOTUS, and Pentagon and SERVED PRESENTMENTS!!! This is OUR COUNTRY, NOT HIS! IT IS ALSO OUR MONEY, AND NOT HIS!
Mack and I would like to thank fellow Patriots Penny and Chalice for their dedicated hard work.
*************************************************What we’re doing is entirely in accordance with citizens’ rights enshrined in the Constitution and
it is intended to clarify to all that the Constitution is the inviolable, sacrosanct and supreme law of the land — from which each and every federal office-holder including the president, without exception, derives authority and legitimacy.
If ANY federal office-holder denies the supremacy of the Constitution — he destroys the legitimacy of his own authority! [emphases original]
Update: WorldNetDaily similarly reports on the story:
Documents assembled by volunteer “citizens grand jury” members working to publicize doubts about President Obama’s eligibility to his office that allege fraud and treason by Obama have been delivered to the White House, the FBI, members of Congress and the court system in Washington, D.C.
The papers, called “presentments,” were assembled by members of a volunteer “super grand jury” of 172 people and Carl Swensson, a spokesman for the American Grand Jurymovement as well as author of his own RiseUpForAmerica website, said he’s now calling on Americans from shore to shore to reach out to those powers, demanding to know what action is being taken.
“Any way you can get in touch with them,” he told WND today, via calls, e-mail and faxes.
The paperwork was assembled by those to fear that that an ineligible candidate was sworn into office on Jan. 20, and are concerned about what that means under the U.S. Constitution’s demand for a “natural born” citizen in the White House.
Such volunteer citizen “grand juries” already have been active on the local level, presenting their accusations against Obama to courts, sheriffs, prosecutors, judges and legislators across the nation, without success so far.
The participants explain they are within their constitutional rights to assemble, review evidence and deliver accusations. That’s one reason the actual documents are not widely published; they adhere to the “grand jury” rule of secrecy.
“Sooner or later some court or many courts will formally indict Obama from our presentments or [a] complaint,” said one organizer.
Swensson told WND that he and other volunteers armed with copies of the “citizen grand jury’s” report accusing the president of fraud and treason arrived in Washington in time for this week’s planned meetings at the White House, where Secret Service officials accepted the paperwork; the FBI, members of Congress and other locations.
At the White House, his team was greeted by no fewer than nine members of the Secret Service with the immediate question, “Are you kooks?”
Assured the visitors were not, agents listened for more than three hours as Swensson and others explained the purpose of their visit, and ultimately, the Secret Service signed for acceptance of the papers, Swensson said.
The only scheduled delivery that was unsuccessful was at the Department of Justice, run by Obama’s appointee Eric Holder. But that department is fully aware of the accusations through the numerous lawsuits that have brought challenges to Obama’s tenure.
Swensson said now is the time for citizens to become involved and approach those government officials, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, through whatever means they have to demand action on the issue.
The paperwork also was delivered to the U.S. Supreme Court, organizers said.
Among members of Congress to be given the documentation were U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas; Rep. Michele Bachman, R-Minn.; Rep. Randy Neugebauer, R-Texas and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell. …
WND previously reported that among the citizen grand jury accusations is: “It is public knowledge that Obama has admitted in his writings and otherwise that when he was born, his father was a British citizen/subject and not a United States citizen and that at that time he himself also became such. In fact, his father was not even a permanent resident of the United States, but rather only a student who would probably have been here only on a temporary student visa. Hence, not only was Obama’s father not a United States citizen but Obama himself was born a British subject.”
The accusation of treason comes from a retired member of the U.S. military officer, Lt. Cmdr. Walter Fitzpatrick III, who has presented his complaint to U.S. Attorney Russell Dedrick in Tennessee, the presentments explain.
Fitzpatrick alleged, “Now you [Obama] have broken in and entered the White House by force of contrivance, concealment, conceit, dissembling, and deceit. Posing as an impostor president and commander in chief you have stripped civilian command and control over the military establishment. Known military criminal actors-command racketeers-are now free in the exercise of military government intent upon destruction of America’s constitutional government. We come now to this reckoning. I accuse you and your military-political criminal assistants of TREASON. I name you and your military criminal associates as traitors. Your criminal ascension manifests a clear and present danger. You fundamentally changed our form of government. The Constitution no longer works.”
The American Grand Jury website explains it is clear the U.S. Constitution “intended to give the grand jury power to instigate criminal charges, and this was especially true when it came to government oversight.”
According to the grand jury website, “Sooner or later the court system is going to be inundated with ‘presentments’ against Obama. Sooner or later public sentiment is going to demand these courts act and force Obama to answer to the charges.”
See the following links regarding the eligibility saga:
- Obama’s Presidential Eligibility: What You Need to Know
- Obama’s Sealed Background Documentation
- What’s the Difference Between a Birth Certification Versus a Birth Certificate?
- Obama Citizenship Facts
- The State Department and Sen. Patrick Leahy’s (D-VT) Natural Born Citizen Resolution (April 10, 2008)
- Citizen Grand Jury Updates and Eligibility Lawsuit Listing
-Phil
Similar Posts:
- More Citizen Grand Jury Presentments Due in DC
- Citizen Grand Jury: AGJ Reports 49 Member Requests, Swennson Found a Sheriff
- WND: Citizens in 20 More States to Form Common Law Grand Juries
- Jury Update: American Grand Jury to Hear Evidence Soon
- Federal Judge Denies Citizen Grand Jury Presentment Filing
HI DoH Officials and the governor merely stated that the birth certificate was on file in accordance
with state law. They never indicated what was contained therein. Therefore, they have an out
regardless of what it contains.
HI allowed the recording of foreign births at the time Obama was born. Therefore, it could be in
complete agreement with HI law but not with the US Constitution for a presidential candidate.
So many questions that need answering and that would resolve matter. Obama has the power, but has
chosen to hire lawyers and spend in excess of $2 million to prevent public access to his records. The
question remains “Why?”.
He could put this all to rest…
Why did Pelosi change the statement issued by the Dems certifying Obama as eligible? See
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/22221
TRUTH ALWAYS SILENCES THE LIBERAL ARGUMENT
ARE THESE GRAND JURIES DOING ANY GOOD. SEEMS LIKE WHEN I WATCH THE NEWS HE IS STRUTTING JUST AS HIGH AS BEFORE, HE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO WIPE THE FEET OF THE MARINES THAT HAVE TO SALUTE HIM. I AM A VETERAN OF THE MARINE CORPS. WW2 AND TO WATCH THOSE YOUNG PATRIOTS SALUTE THIS ILLEGAL MUSLIM-AMERICAN SO CALLED PRESIDENT, GALLS ME TO MY ROOTS OF FAIRNESS. HE IS SUCH AN ARROGANT, MEGLOMANIC AND WILL TAKE DOWN OUR COUNTRY. EVEN 7 MONTHS IN HE HAS INCREASED THE DEFICIT, THE DEBT LIMIT HAS BEEN RAISED DUE TO HIS INSANE SPENDING, THAT CAP AND TRADE, SO MUCH UTTER CRAP HE IS DOING, I AM REALLY PLEASED TO SEE THE PEOPLE AT THE TOWN HALLS GIVE THE CROOKED POLITICIANS THE WILDNESS AND LOUD VOICES, BUT HOPE IT LASTS ALL THRU AUGUST AND THAT WILL HELP ME AND OUR COUNTRY.
AS LOU DOBBS IS MENTIONING AND ALSO A BIT ON FOX NEWS, DOESN’T FEEL LIKE IT WILL BE TOO MUCH LONGER THAT THE USURPER IS GETTING AWAY WITH MUCH MORE. HOPE NOT, BUT CAP AND TRADE AND HEALTH CARE STILL BEING TOUTED BY CONGRESS. WISH MORE PEOPLE WOULD WAKE UP AND SEE JUST WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THEIR COUNTRY. I AM QUITE ANGRY, AS A VETERAN OF WW2, MARINE CORPS AND FEMALE, I TOOK MY OATH OF ENLISTMENT ON THAT DOCUMENT AND HOPE AND PRAY IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE JUDGED AS WRITTEN, BUT HIS NEW APPOINTEE SAYS SHE IS A WISE LATINA WOMAN, WE WILL SEE JUST HOW HER NEW JUDGMENTS WILL EFFECT THIS RULINGS OF THE SUPREME COURT.
THINK THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS A GOOD TOPIC, I AM OLD VETERAN OF WW2 AND CAN TELL YOU JUST WHERE I WAS BORN, WHY CAN’T HE, WHAT IS HE ASHAMED OF, SOME PEOPLE DON’T LIKE TO TELL WHERE AND WHEN BORN BECAUSE OF THE AGE FACTOR, BUT THE BOOK HE WROTE TOLD HOW HIS FATHER WAS BRITISH, KENYA AT THAT TIME UNDER BRITISH RULE, AND IF HE WAS A SON OF A BRITISH NATIONAL, THEN HE IS BRITISH ISN’T HE? I HAVE READ WHERE HIS MOM TOO YOUNG TO CONVEY CITIZENSHIP TO HIM, ALSO WHEN HE WAS OLDER WENT TO INDONESIA WITH HIS MOTHER AND AT THAT TIME THEY DID NOT ACCEPT OTHER COUNTRY PASSPORTS, SO GUESS HE HAD EITHER BRITISH PASSPORT OR INDONESIAN. WHATEVER, ALL HIS RECORDS ARE SO SHROUDED IN MYSTERY, MCCAIN WAS VETTED EXTENSIVELY DURING ELECTION PROCESS, WHY WAS NOT OBAMA VETTED, I HEARD ONE LADY SAY HE HAD GOTTEN SO FAR FOR ONE REASON HE IS BLACK, MYSELF DON’T CARE ABOUT COLOR, I WANT SOMEBODY WHO WILL ABIDE BY THE CONSTITUTION, AS IT IS THE LAW OF OUR LAND, AND HE AND HIS APPOINTEES ARE TRASHING THIS AND BILL OF RIGHTS.
Phil,
“This is why, long ago, I made mention of the fact (as originated from other astute observers) that it has only been private web sites that have ever posted and handled the certification of live birth, never any public, .gov-based (or otherwise) top-level domain web sites that have posted the information.”
FYI, when Factcheck.org went to the Obama Campaign HQ to inspect and photograph Obama’s COLB, according to Brooks Jackson, Director of Factcheck.org, everyone in the news media was invited. To the best of his knowledge, no one but Factcheck.org showed up. Here is his contact information if you would like to verify this information.
Brooks Jackson
Director, FactCheck.org
320 National Press Building
Washington DC 20045
(202) 879-6700
Phil,
“Fukino said she has “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.””
Original birth certificate = 1961
The HI DOH officials were well aware of what the media was asking regarding Obama’s birth certificate. “Was he born in Hawaii.” As per the statement above, “Fukino said she has personally seen and verified,” therefore if that document did not say that Obama was born in Hawaii, the the HI DOH officials would have never released a statement to the press.
“I’ll suspend disbelief in thinking you’re being once again exceptionally obtuse”
ob·tuse (b-ts, -tys, b-)
adj. ob·tus·er, ob·tus·est
1.
a. Lacking quickness of perception or intellect.
b. Characterized by a lack of intelligence or sensitivity: an obtuse remark”
Describing yourself?
Sue,
How would HistorianDude term your accusation? “Right battle, wrong hill,” I think it would be.
If there is a conspiracy, it is not by way of the HI DoH or Gov. Linda Lingle (R-HI). Rather, it is on the part of the Administration, and namely Mr. Obama, especially prior to ascending to the office of the presidency.
In fact, my commentary and postings have suggested nothing less than the fact that nobody has been able to find one direct, official citation whereby any actual official has confirmed the certification of live birth. To spell this out more fully (especially for those who are in the obtuse category), this means that should it be proven that the certification is fraudulent, it would have absolutely zero to do with any government officials and everything to do with private entities.
This is why, long ago, I made mention of the fact (as originated from other astute observers) that it has only been private web sites that have ever posted and handled the certification of live birth, never any public, .gov-based (or otherwise) top-level domain web sites that have posted the information.
Again, instead of having a fair and open debate about this politician’s background, folks such as myself must continually fight against preconceived notions originated by the opposition (for the purposes of specifically muddying the waters on this issue, the evidence to which my site fully points) in order to get to a reasonable premise of discussion.
So, again, if there is a conspiracy, it is not by the government, in my view (they’re all doing their jobs, as far as I can tell), it is by private individuals and entities, and headed by a very public individual.
-Phil
“Yes, I’m suggesting it could be a fraudulent piece of paper.”
You have a right to suggest anything you please, but to imply that the Hi DOH, Hi Governor and everybody else that has been accused of “being part of this conspiracy”, needs to go get a mental health check because there is absolutely no evidence to support your allegations whatsoever.
Sue,
Based on your past history of commentary on my blog, I’ll suspend disbelief in thinking you’re being once again exceptionally obtuse and will answer your direct question.
If the HI DoH officials were requested to produce a certification of live birth for Mr. Obama, then they would take the information that is found on the original birth certificate and produce it.
However, while we have seen sites like FactCheck.org opine about the certification of live birth, we have not seen any direct, official corroboration on the part of the HI DoH that the certification, per se, has been verified by them. Further, while folks such as yourself like to draw a link between the original 1961 birth certificate and the alleged certification, this is merely a leading conclusion and is not supported by Hawaiian officials.
In the words of the President, “Let me be clear.” Just because Mr. Obama’s original 1961 birth certificate exists does not mean that the certification of live birth that has subsequently been produced — presumably either in 2007 or 2008 — is actually from the HI DoH. Yes, I’m suggesting it could be a fraudulent piece of paper.
-Phil
Phil,
“First of all, this is about the original 1961 birth certificate; it has nothing to do with the certification of live birth.”
“Fukino said she has “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”
Obama’s original birth certificate = 1961 birth certificate. That is what the word “original” means.
“The HI DoH officials absolutely cannot arbitrarily view private records of individuals without due cause per the law.”
Would you please cite the law that you are referring to?
Hmmm, let me see if I get this straight. The HI DOH officials job description includes providing individuals with certified copies of their BC. The information on the certified copy of their BC is obtained from their original birth certificate information which would have to be viewed by the HI DOH officials/employees to obtain for the certified copy of the BC. So, if there is a law that states they are not allowed to do this (view info on original BC), how do they perform their job?
Phil:
First, I must call you yet again on your rank hypocrisy here. You are the only one of us who made a fake reference to a non-existent law. Not me.
We’ve played this silly game before Phil. Why do you think it will end any differently this time?
1. There is no such law. There is only the authority of their positions as custodians of the records, a job that cannot be performed at all without their full access to them.
2. You need to look up the word “arbitrary.” Their viewing of Obama’s birth certificate was not arbitrary.
3. You need to also look up the phrase “due cause. Their viewing of Obama’s birth certificate was not without “due cause.”
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HistorianDude,
Please cite the law that states that State officials can arbitrarily look at any public record they wish without due cause.
-Phil
Jacqlyn Smith:
How do you figure?
According to Robert M. Calhoon’s “Loyalism and neutrality” in Jack P. Greene and J.R. Pole, eds., The Blackwell Encyclopedia of the American Revolution (1991) between 85% and 80% of the American Colonials were active revolutionaries. Last I looked, that was hardly a “small percentage.”
Phil:
More psuedo-legalese babble Phil? What does that even mean?
The officials in question can, by legal authority of their positions as custodians of the records, view any such record they want for any reason. In this case, the reason they had for doing so was rather obvious… so they could publicly testify that they had done so.