As I had recently remarked in my “best of” vacation posting, Rep. Bill Posey’s (R-FL) bill on presidential eligibility, HR1503, had 4 cosponsors added to his bill. And as attorney Mario Apuzzo points out, the list has recently grown to 6:

The sixth U.S. Congress House Representative has signed on to co-sponsor HR 1503. Congressman John Campbell (R-CA 48th District) is the latest to co-sponsor the bill written and sponsored by Bill Posey (R-FL). This bill would prevent Presidential candidates running in future elections, including 2012, as I read the bill, from hiding and sealing their birth and other records and require the political party for the candidate to file the necessary birth records and any other sought corroborating evidence which would be necessary to prove that they are a “natural born citizen” and eligible for the office of President under Article II of the U.S. Constitution. It would be administered by the Federal Election Commission (FEC). See this website for more details:http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-1503

List of sponsors and co-sponsors as of 18 June 2009. Sponsor: Rep. Bill Posey [R-FL15]. Cosponsors: Rep. Robert Goodlatte [R-VA6], Rep. John Culberson [R-TX7], Rep. Randy Neugebauer [R-TX19], Rep. John Carter [R-TX31], Rep. John Campbell [R-CA48]

WorldNetDaily recently reported that Sen. Tom Cobrun (R-OK) wrote some revealing remarks to a concerned constitutent in a letter apparently forwarded to the conservative news site:

Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., says it’s the responsibility of the states to make sure political candidates are eligible for the offices they seek, but he’s in favor of both state and federal demands that future presidential candidates have a formal procedure to document their qualifications. …

“The bill requires any federal candidates’ campaign committee filing with the Federal Election Commission to produce a copy of the candidate’s birth certificate,” he wrote. “If the bill makes it to the Senate, I will likely support it.”

Coburn also noted that within the state of Oklahoma, a bill has been proposed [my link] that would require “any candidate filing with the Oklahoma State Election Board to provide proof of citizenship by providing a ’state government-issued birth certificate with a raised seal.’”

“I hope the Oklahoma State Legislature will give serious consideration to this bill and I hope more states will reform their ballot access laws to ensure federal candidates must affirmatively prove their eligibility,” the senator wrote.

He said while he believes President Obama “meets the constitutional requirement to be president,” he said, “It is each state’s responsibility to determine the eligibility of those running for federal office.”

But the senator also affirmed there are concerns about any “possible violation” of the U.S. Constitution.

“As a U.S. senator, I consult the Constitution regularly and strive to make sure my decisions and positions are in line with that decisive document,” he wrote.

In the same article, WND went on to mention further thoughts on the subject by Rep. Posey:

Posey talked about his plan, his goal and his intentions on the Andrea Shea King Show.

“I don’t think a Supreme Court would remove a president from office if they heard the case. But … we should make a good faith effort to make sure that things in the future are as they should be,” he said.

Attorney Leo Donofrio recently chimed in on the recent back-and-forth between WND reporter Les Kinsolving and Press Secretary Gibbs regarding the birth certificate issue (with a nice hat-tip to this bodaciously kewl blog)…

Whether they know it or not, WND is causing massive distraction by feeding the birth certificate smokescreen more and more fire while consistently failing toconcentrate national focus on the core legal issue - Obama admits to being a British citizen at birth and therefore could not have been a “natural born citizen” of the United States as is required by the Constitution.

Phil at Right Side of Life has the most in depth coverage and actual video footage of the WND-White House Experience.

Fox News and the London Times also covered the eligibility issue and Phil has all of that at the link above.

I am very concerned that the amount of serious media attention the birth certificate issue is currently generating is NOT due to some mass awakening of citizens but rather a calculated device put in place by the powers that be as a set up for crushing the eligibility movement once and for all.

One of these days the Obama administration might serve up for your culinary consumption the most perfect long form birth certificate you could ever imagine.  Hawaii officials will vouch for its authenticity under oath if need be.  And numerous forensic experts will substantiate its veracity.

Then the POTUS eligibility movement is going to look like a vast nutjob right wing conspiracy.

And the ineligible one will be so much stronger and more powerful for it.

The BC thing is a side dish, not the main course.  Any discussion of the BC issue should be subordinate to the dual nationality issue.

The false BC theory is – without a doubt - a conspiracy theory of epic proportions. Nobody can deny that it’s a textbook conspiracy theory.  Regardless of whether he has a genuine long form BC saying he was born in Hawaii, the concept that the COLB is a forgery would certainly concern a vast conspiracy to defraud the American people.  Conspiracies do exist, but they have a very bad reputation and the media can spin them as kookery with ease.

The dual nationality issue is NOT a conspiracy theory. It’s a genuine legal question.  Obama admits he was a dual citizen at birth [my link].   Eligibility advocates have simply questioned whether that makes him ineligible to be President under Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 of the US Constitution.

BC = Conspiracy theory

DUAL NATIONALITY ADMISSION = legal question …

Make this question your mantra.  Don’t be distracted from it.

THIS IS WHAT YOU ASK GIBBS NEXT TIME, WND:

During the election, then Senator Obama published a statement at his website which said that his birth status was “governed” by the British Nationality Act of 1948.  Can you please tell the American people how a natural born citizen of the United States can be governed – at birth – by British law? [emphases original]

Dr. Ron Polarik, one of the two forensics analysts who have gone on record to question the authenticity of Mr. Obama’s certification of live birth, recently made two more comments at FreeRepublic.com (h/t TheObamaFile.com) regarding his perspective on the documentation provided thus far for Mr. Obama’s birth (similarly following up on his letter to Fox News’ Bret Baier).

The first:

We have no proof of where Obama was born. Anyone who claims that he was born in Hawaii is suffering from COLB Derangement Syndrome. Hawaii never confirmed that he was born in Hawaii, never confirmed that he has a Hawaiian long-form birth certificate or any other US birth certificate on file, or even if they have anything tangible beyond a computer record.Most of all, Hawaii confirmed that they never released a copy of Obama’s COLB to anyone in June 2007.

Einstein could have called himself, “Humpty Dumpty,” and hid his face, but that would not change the fact that he discovered E= mc^2. Likewise, Obama’s 2007 COLB would be just as nonexistent as if I had never discovered that it was nonexistent. But, it is a good thing that I did.

It’s positively amazing the amount of effort that people have expended in defense of this piece of crap COLB image that the Poseur-in-Chief now admits to posting online. There is only one reason why, after more than a year, that only one scan image of one side only has ever been made from what is alleged to be Obama’s 2007 COLB: it doesn’t exist. Obama’s 2007 COLB is a forged fake, fabricated in Photoshop, and nothing that anyone says or does can change that fact.

There is absolutely no reason, whatsoever, that the Obama Campaign would not make another, more detailed scan, including one of the reverse side of the COLB, and send that out to quiet critics. No reason, EXCEPT that the document does not exist in the real world. It only exists in the unreal, virtual world of Photoshopped fakes.

BTW, a digital photo is not the same thing as a scan image, and it most certainly cannot be used to validate a scan image. Certainly not when the document object is photographed at a steep angles from the capture device (which were intentional).

Remember that Factcheck did not take a digital photo of the reverse side (all that Factcheck photographed was only 1/4 of the entire back page, and only 2/3 of the Seal). Why was so little of the back page shown? Because what was photographed belonged to a different COLB!! Check it out for yourself: the Seal on the reverse side does not match the one on the front side. It is one of several, new discoveries I’ve made after revisitng the Factcheck photographs.

A year later after the bogus scan image was posted, THAT is exactly what people are still talking about. They are referring back to the original forged image on Fight the Smears and Factcheck. They are quoting Factcheck — the co-conspirator in this birth certficate scam — as having “verified” the bogus “scan image”.

Recall that Factcheck claimed they photographed the same object that the Obama Campaign scanned two months earlier. They took these photos SOLELY IN DEFENSE of the scan image that they alleged to have “validated,” and to fend off the widespread criticism of the COLB as a forged image. However, they failed to “debunk” the critics. This was all part of an elaborate ruse to create the illusion that Obama had released his genuine, certified original birth certificate to the public.

What is hard to believe are the people in high places who actually believe that this document exists, but of those, here is a segment who also discount it as being proof of where Obama was actually born. COLBs are incredibly easy to get with little documentation required. And, yes, it is a well-documented fact that Hawaii was giving COLBs to foreign-born children.

But the bottom line is that the original “scan image” is what people are still talking about today, and it is an indisputable fact that Obama, or anyone else, does not have a genuine 2007 COLB document. and that what is posted online is as bogus as a four-dollar bill.

Obama ascended to the position of President by fraudulent means, including document fraud, Internet fraud, voter fraud, and campaign funding fraud, to name a few. The only question at hand now is whether he will be removed by invalidating his election, or by the articles of impeachment. If I were a Democratic Congressman, and I was going to be implicated in this fraud, I’d be calling for impeachment in a New York minute.

And his second:

The only thing I’ll sign is a petition for Obama, Obama for America, and Factcheck to be charged with criminal document fraud and Internet fraud for creating and proffering a false identification document, aka the fabricated COLB image posted on Obama’s website, among others, that Press Secretary Gibbs publicly admitted was put there by the aforementioned President of the United States and his Presidential Administration.These said individuals and parties did willingly, and with malice aforethought, violate Chapter 18 of the United States Code, Section 1028, Fraud and related activity in connection with identification documents, authentication features, and information, by creating and preferring what they allege was Obama’s actual, original birth certificate, but was, in fact, a false identification document as defined by statute below:

A “false identification document” is any document *or facsimile of a document) of a type intended or commonly accepted for the purposes of identification of individuals that – (A) is not issued by or under the authority of a governmental entity or was issued under the authority of a governmental entity but was subsequently altered for purposes of deceit; and (B) appears to be issued by or under the authority of the United States Government, a State, a political subdivision of a State, a foreign government, a political subdivision of a foreign government, or an international governmental or quasi-governmental organization.

The Obama Administration, the Obama Campaign, aka Obama for America, Factcheck.org, and Barack Hussien Obama as the principle mastermind of this document fraud who directed the creation and distribution of a false identification document for himself, are hereby charged with the commission of felony document fraud, punishable by up to five (5) years in prison, and a maximum fine of $250,000 for each offense.

It is a statement of fact, and admission therewith, that the OBama Campaign, aka Obama for America, did create a minimum of three (3) false identification document copies and distributed said copies to the Daily Kos, Factcheck, and Politifact; and, additionally, posted the original false identification document on Obama’s own website, “My.BarackObama.com” and also on a separate website known as, “Fight The Smears.”

Furthermore, two months after the creation and distribution of these false identification documents, Obama for America, in collusion with Factcheck,org, a subsidiary of the Annenberg Public Policy Center, owned by the Annenberg Foundation and funded by billionaire George Soros, created and posted nine (9) photographs of what they further alleged was the same, false identification document that they had earler alleged was a scanned facsimile of Obama’s original birth certificate — thus compounding their earlier offenses with further violations of the same statutes.

In all, Then Presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama, his campaign organization, d/b/a Obama for America, and Annenberg’s Factcheck organization are hereby charged with thirteen (13) separate violations of Chapter 18 of the United States Code, Section 1028.

It is further alleged that these individuals and organizations, by virtue of displaying and promoting these fraudulent images as genuine government-issued documents, to the voting populaces of all 50 states in the Union, are hereby, also guilty of committing Internet fraud, in violation of individual state laws and Federal laws.

Lastly, these false documents are also in violation of Hawaiian state forgery statues as the State Government of Hawaii was directly deceived and harmed irrespective of the other charges.

I call upon the Attorney General of the State of Hawaii, Attorneys General of the other 49 states, the DC District Attorney, the Attorney General of the United States, and the Congress of the United States to launch their own investigations of the crimes committed against the respective state and national governments, and the citizens under these jurisdictions.

Or…something like that.

WND also reports that KTBB radio in Tyler, Texas sprang the eligibility question:

A radio news anchor’s question about whether Barack Obama is eligible to be president of the United States hit a gusher of response, with comments ranging from the suggestion it’s a “fishy” situation to, “Obama is not eligible under the Constitution and is an illegal usurper!”

The response came to a question by Garth Maier of KTBB radio in Tyler, Texas, who wondered whether there still was doubt about Obama’s eligibility, based on the U.S. Constitution’s requirement that presidents be “natural born” citizens. Maier’s dialogue with his listeners was featured in a segment yesterday by Tyler TV station KETK.

Maier raised the question because of a challenge from WND founder Joseph Farah, who offered $10,000 to anyone who can prove he or she was present at Obama’s birth.

“Barack Obama claims to have been born in Honolulu Aug. 4, 1961,” Farah explained in his offer. “His entire constitutional claim to the presidency rests on this premise. Yet, he refuses to release a copy of his long-form birth certificate – the only document that could possibly corroborate his claim. Therefore, in the interest of truth, justice and the Constitution, I am making the extraordinary offer to entice someone to come forward with the facts of his birth – whether it took place in Hawaii or elsewhere.” …

So far, Farah pointed out, no hospital in Hawaii has come forward to claim the historic birth, no doctor or nurse has come forward to say they were present, and no witness of any kind has come forward to say they have first-hand knowledge or involvement in it – at least in Hawaii. …

Maier asked the simple question whether those in his Texas listening area believe there is a lack of proof that Obama was born in Hawaii. He told WND, “Seems like most people DO NOT think Obama has proved his case.

“Most still very much in doubt,” he said.

A survey on the station’s website was running 4-1 against Obama having provided enough information for the dispute to be resolved.

Among the responses:

• O’s Kenyan grandmother says she was present at the birth of O in KENYA. O’s sister said he was born in one hospital in Hawaii while O says he was born in a different hospital in Hawaii. There is something fishy going on here.
• If the man has his “real” birth certificate locked up by the Gov. of Hawaii then he MUST be hiding something. Like the fact that he was NOT born here. Get the truth out, he is tearing our country apart and turning us into the old USSR.
• I believe that Obama does NOT have enough proof!
• Just release the documents and end the debate, if he is in fact legit. Showing a full birth certificate is required to register your child for school, get a driver’s license of apply for a federal job.
• There is absolutely no possible way Obama could be a legal president. I refuse to call him president.
• Obama needs to release his original long form birth certificate, his school records, and his passport records. He is supposedly leading the country, and we have no idea who this man really even is.

There was one comment on Obama’s behalf: “This such a farse, (sic) and it shows that discriminstion (sic) is still rampant in this country. As a nation our focus should be on those who are doing to rip off the middle and lower class, to seperate (sic) the have’s from the have not’s. This is a way to discredit Mr. Obahma and put even the smallest inkling of confusion and doubt in the minds of Americans.”

On the station’s call-in line, the comments also were heavily weighted in favor of getting more information from Obama.

“When I go my driver’s license, I had to show my birth certificate,” said one caller. “I wonder how he got his.”

“If he cannot prove it, I think he ought to be impeached,” said another.

“It is clear now that Obama will never willingly release his birth certificate,” said Farah in announcing the offer. “It’s time for Americans who still value the Constitution to step up and force the issue. It’s time for us to learn the truth of where Obama was born. We may find he was born in Hawaii. We may find he was born elsewhere. I have no pre-conceived ideas. But this issue has haunted the American people long enough. It’s time for some truth and transparency.”

To collect the reward, the subject must:

1. Agree to an interview with WND journalists;

2. Provide persuasive evidence, such as pictures, documents or verifiable details;

3. Agree to a polygraph test.

“I think it’s disgraceful that Americans should be forced to go to such lengths by the intransigence of public officials toward accountability,” said Farah. “But that is what it has come to in 2009 with our current president. He prefers to dodge and weave, while his apologists in government and media viciously attack citizens for attempting to see that the Constitution is observed.”

Concerning the citizen grand jury effort, Bob Campbell, editor at AmericanGrandJury.org, created the following update on this initiative:

You wanted the BIG time Obama — well, you got your wish from the Patriots at American Grand Jury. 172 Grand Jury members worked night and day for 10 days in session to hand down the presentments against our arrogant Usurper.

It’s defintely a world’s record and Obama now owns it — the biggest Grand Jury vote in history charging “the ONE” with Fraud and Treason.

Many Obots out there think we are crazy. The Patriots will say, “so who cares what the followers of deception think?”

The people that truly believe and “can read” the United States Constitution know without a doubt the prez is as illegal as a 3 dollar bill. Those that blindly follow BO are only hoping he never gets caught as the road to deception will truly judge all those in the end.

Now that the Presentments are finished and posted for our members to download, what are we going to do next?

Mack Ellis and Carl Swensson are headed to Washington DC and should be there on Monday. They have a number of stops to make to serve the Super Jury Presentments on various people who are complicit in helping Obama stay in office. The White House advisors, Eric Holder, the DC Attorney General, the Offices of Pelosi and Reid, the Offices of the Supreme Court and certain other powerful and undisclosed recipients are on the list. Will these liberal government officials care? Some will laugh, most will hide! Will it make a difference to those of us who can’t stand the thought that our leaders in Congress and the Administration lie, cheat and steal to retain their power. Like I said previously, “the road to deception will judge these people in times to come.” God has a plan for all of us. You either live your life in honor of God and his laws or you choose the other side. It is really very simple. All the retoric in the world will not change this supreme truth.

Next, we are asking every Patriot to celebrate the 4th of July by telling your friends and neighbors that the Usuper has been charged with Frand and Treason. This should give everyone a thrill and make the fireworks even more exciting. After all, the 4th of July represents the birth of our Country and the American Revolution. The Super Jury is part of the NEW American Revolution and the Patriot’s goal is that of taking back America.

To help celebrate, we have the new American Grand Jury (4th of July) flyers that can be downloaded here. [the download link will be available in the next 24 hours]

We have a new AGJ BlogTalkRadio show that just made its debut this past Wednesday. It was a resounding success! The next show is scheduled 2 weeks from now.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/American-Grand-Jury

The new American Grand Jury Forum is now up and running. It is a private Forum for graduating jury MEMBERS ONLY. The first 24 hours was exciting as the members have already contributed around 100 posts.

Waiting in the wings are over 200 NEW members in the database. These are the Patriots that have submitted their Oaths of Office and are now waiting to serve on a jury. Your wait is not long now. Everyone of you will get a chance to be on a Grand Jury in July. With active and new members we are pushing the 450 member mark and growing daily. …

For those of you out there that don’t think our goal is possible, just remember this:

During the American Revolution 70% of the citizens were loyal to the King or apathetic. The other 30% founded a Nation.

If you think we don’t have enough patriots in this country to remove the usurper from office, think again! [emphases original]

Speaking of Mr. Swensson, his site now features the following update:

Washington D.C., June 29th
We will all meet in front of the Whitehouse at
10:00 A.M. EST
What we’re doing is entirely in accordance with citizens’ rights enshrined in the Constitution and it is intended to clarify to all that the Constitution is the inviolable, sacrosanct and supreme law of the land — from which each and every federal office-holder including the president, without exception, derives authority and legitimacy.

If ANY federal office-holder denies the supremacy of the Constitution — he destroys the legitimacy of his own authority!

IF “We the People” see the rightness of our cause and the see that the office-holders are failing to fulfill their oaths of office — even if we are blocked from presenting the Presentments – we win in the court of Public Opinion. Without public support — what is the government?

thank you Palo…

Mack and I would like to thank those of you who are joining us on this journey through Washington. We can report that after spending the better part of yesterday (Friday, the 26th of June) calling the White House and the Pentagon, faxing, phoning and E-mailing, Chalice (PatriotHeartsNetwork.com), Penny (volunteer), Mack and I got responses ranging from.., “we won’t accept this material” to “you must make a formal written request”. So let’s see if we can get this right.., hundreds of people peacefully gather and return a “True Bill” Against BHO. Hundreds of the Grand Jury Presentments are filed across the country with no action taken yet. We schedule this trip to deliver these documents to Washington and they are afraid to receive them??? They know from our conversations that we will have Journalists following us and it will be reported so Washington, what are you afraid of?
The answer should be obvious to all… They are, rightfully so, afraid of the Citizens of this country. We are and have always been respectful and peaceful but we are also the very same people who know that they are there to serve us not the other way around.
CAVEAT: Please do not, I repeat, do not attempt to take videos with the Pentagon in the picture as we are still under restrictions due to 911 and remember that this trip is entirely peaceful. [emphases original]

Someone involved with researching geneologies had the following to say at attorney Orly Taitz’ blog:

Dear Dr. Taitz,

I am writing to offer another investigative angle, Genealogy Lists.

It occurred to me, even if we are not allowed to see Obama’s original Hawaiian Vault Record of Birth, (as if one exists…) then perhaps we can at least access a state archive supported genealogy list, and see if his original birth record certificate number is on the list…

For example – - I was born somewhere in the Deep South in 1949. My original long form vault record oflive birth certificate number is 1949-343. My original certificate appears to have been partially typed on a small form using an old manual typewriter, and partial executed by hand, on what looks to be a 4” X 6” form card. Those “index cards” were all sequentially numbered (again, mine is number 1949-343) The original cards are all kept in metal trays, in a vault. When I order up a “Certified Copy of my Vault Record of Live Birth”, the records clerk pulls out the original document, (which has stamps, seals, my mom’s signature, the delivering doctor’s signature, etc.) places the document on a photocopy (“Xerox”) machine, feeds 8.5” X 11” security paper (“Check Protect Green, 25 Lb. Bond”) into the machine, and a copy is made, which is later stamped, signed, and a raised impression seal embossed into the paper. That is how a real “Birth Certificate” is produced from an “Original Vault Record of Live Birth”. That number, 1949-343, my name, my DOB, and my POB, and my parents names all appear on a simple little archive list.

Think about it, way back when, before computers were in wide spread use (say, pre-1980, give or take) how do you think the Records Clerk processed any request for a certified copy of a birth certificate? He took the applicant’s name, and his DOB, and went to that year’s list, which among other things, would list the vault number and tray number where the original little 4” X 6” card was kept. So, the index lists were important.

Flash forward to Hawaii in1961. They were still recording births in the same manner in 1961.

Now, here is where genealogy research comes in. I tried various Google searches, sort of like this – - “Hawaii” + “Genealogists” + “Birth Certificate Index”. Not much luck. I tried numerous other search combinations, and I finally ended up, after hours on the computer, hitting the jackpot with “Investigators” + “missing heirs“.

I found an investigator with offices in Ohio and in Florida called “Legal Investigative Services”. Their special genealogy/investigative niche involves lost and missing heirs, etc. These guys really know how it works and how to search. I talked to a guy named Hatcher in the Florida office. He told me that Hawaiian searches were now ‘restricted’, and he didn’t want to talk about it. (…phone goes “click”…) I then called a guy named Rucker in their Ohio office. The bottom line: He says that approximately 6 months ago (do the math) that Hawaii locked down their Index List, which had previously been openly accessible to Registered Genealogists.

The point of course is this: If we could access the Hawaiian Original Vault Record of Live Birth “IndexList”, starting with number 1961-001, and going to the end of 1961, perhaps we would see that the name “Obama” is not on the list…

Golly gee, what are the chances?

Here is an example of one type of index that a Genealogist would keep; a State Index would be only slightly different:

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_8plkY5ChqvM/ScwpME0uRfI/AAAAAAAAQqo/uNmuXGq3tqE/032509+086.jpg

So, it occurred to me…

Any serious Hawaiian Genealogist would certainly have a good relationship with the local records clerk, right?

All of the old indexes were in paper form. So, it is not beyond the pale to imagine that sometime in the past, perhaps as recently as 2 or 3 years ago, a Registered Hawaiian Genealogist may have made a copy of the 1961 index, as it existed then, (before any tampering may have occurred) and the genealogist may have kept that copy. (Wouldn’t that be interesting?)

So, this is just my opinion, but perhaps you should expand your search and talk to Hawaiian genealogists.

I look forward to your response.

Thanks and regards,

IronWorker

I’ll end this post in reference to links that include a letter that was sent to HI Governor Linda Lingle from retired USMC Col. Robert Pappas, blogger and activist Larry Sinclair’s new book (h/t CitizenWells), and WND’s link to someone’s claim that they have a copy of Mr. Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate (allegations include the claim that folks in Kenya fully believe that Mr. Obama is a Kenyan native).

See the following links regarding the eligibility saga:

• Obama’s Presidential Eligibility: What You Need to Know
• Obama’s Sealed Background Documentation
• Obama Citizenship Facts
• Sen. Patrick Leahy’s (D-VT) Natural Born Citizen Resolution (April 10, 2008)
• Citizen Grand Jury Updates and Eligibility Lawsuit Listing

-Phil