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Eligibility Update: Steele Says Obama Not Vetted, Quo Warranto, Grand Jury and Secret Service!

Submitted by Phil on Wed, May 27, 200963 Comments
Eligibility Update: Steele Says Obama Not Vetted, Quo Warranto, Grand Jury and Secret Service!

NewsMax.com reported on Friday that GOP Chairman Michael Steele said that the President’s background was never fully investigated because “the press loved the idea of having an African-American in the White House:”

Never afraid of generating controversy, RNC Chairman Michael Steele said on William Bennett’s radio program Friday that President Barack Obama wasn’t properly investigated by the media as a candidate, because the press loved the idea of having an African-American in the White House.

“The problem that we have with this president is we don’t know him. He was not vetted, folks… He was not vetted, because the press fell in love with the black man running for the office. ‘Oh gee, wouldn’t it be neat to do that? Gee, wouldn’t it make all of our liberal guilt just go away? We can continue to ride around in our limousines and feel so lucky to live in an America with a black president.’”

“OK that’s wonderful, great scenario, nice backdrop,” Steele reportedly continued. “But what does he stand for? What does he believe?”

Steele went on to criticize his fellow Republicans for not “dissecting and understanding” Obama’s controversial former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

CitizenWells reports that Chris Strunk — who had previously filed an FOIA request with the Departments of State and Homeland Security regarding the President’s historical documents — is getting ready to file a motion for quo warranto against the President…

“On this weekend of Memorial Day in remembrance of my ancestors who fought in the Revolution for Independence from Britain, and from whom I inherit from my Great Grandfather John Quigley Strunk, Freemason Grandfather Moses Strunk and Father Earl Henry Strunk the obligation to remember my great uncles John and Charles Strunk who as soldiers served the USA and Pennsylvania died in the war to end all wars; and therefore as a courtesy WE attach the DRAFT of the NOTICE OF CROSS MOTION OF QUO WARRANTO DEMAND FOR JURY TRIAL AND DECISION ON QUESTION OF FIRST IMPRESSION  IN RESPONSE IN OPPOSITION TO DEFENDANT’S PARTIAL MOTION TO DISMISS PLAINTIFF’S AMENDED COMPLAINT AS TO ALLEGED POTUS:  BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IN ESSE
 
and
 
The DRAFT of the AFFIDAVIT IN SUPPORT OF PLAINTIFF’S NOTICE OF CROSS MOTION OF QUO WARRANTO DEMAND FOR JURY TRIAL AND DECISION ON QUESTION OF FIRST IMPRESSION  IN RESPONSE IN OPPOSITION TO DEFENDANT’S PARTIAL MOTION TO DISMISS PLAINTIFF’S AMENDED COMPLAINT AS TO THE CORPORATE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES ALLEGED: BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IN ESSE
 
Such is ready for filing without the addition of various dates in the context with the Exhibits, that will only be attached when the final Memorandum of Law which I am working on when ready is withheld until Wednesday 5/27/09 when the email of the PDF is sent to you all.
 
I would not entertain  an intervention from anyone; and even if  attorney John D. Hemenway’s injury were remanded to district, because the cowboy DJ Robertson acted with questionable impetuousness when he even failed to admit the pro hac vice motion counsel, even the Hollister case is still a matter to find the wet signatures on file there.
 
I appear as the only “interested party” with standing in the Quo Warranto matter and as such oppose any other intervention.
 
Best regards to you all for you have provided me with instruction by your actions to date and we are all grateful accordingly.
 
Chris Strunk”

Carl Swensson, foreman of the Georgia citizen grand jury and activist, reports that he was recently visited by the Secret Service:

I was paid a visit by the Secret Service today at 2:30 PM EST. They were cordial and asked questions about my motives and my basis for our actions which I happily relayed. I talked with them (they had it with them) about the Presentments and Commander Fitzpatrick’s criminal complaint and they said they had been called by the autorities (whoever THEY are) in the Central District of GA. obviously related to my travels through that section of the State last week. I was told that I/we are well within our rights to take this action. This is GOOD news.., we are getting the message to the powers that be and they are aware of our efforts. Their concerns are related to what happens if the American people are summarily ignored.

Part of Mr. Swensson’s travels included the making of the following video:

Bob Campbell at AmericanGrandJury.org had the following grand jury news as well:

By the late 1800s, many communities across the country had begun to celebrate Memorial Day and, after World War I, observances also began to honor those who had died in all of America’s wars.

In 1971, Congress declared Memorial Day a national holiday to be celebrated the last Monday in May.

Today, Memorial Day is celebrated at Arlington National Cemetery with a ceremony in which a small American flag is placed on each grave.

About 5,000 people attend the ceremony annually.

The above history excerpt is provided from the History.com website:
http://www.history.com/content/memorial/the-history-of-memorial-day

Obama and Biden showed up at Arlington to lay the wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. Obama also made an appearance at the 2009 US Naval Academy Graduation this past week. John McCain’s son gave Obama a hug as he received his graduation certificate.

On May 23rd, 2009, the American Grand Jury showed up to indict Obama by handing down presentments. The vote was unanimous. Twenty-seven (27) Jury members attested to the final charges:

COUNT ONE:

That Obama is NOT eligible under the laws of the Constitution of the United States as provided for in Article II, Section 1.

“No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President..”

COUNT TWO:

The charge of “Treason” against Obama is before the people of the United States of America. That such complaint is CRIMINAL, of high crimes, and extremely damaging against the people.

The formal complaint of “Treason” has been lodged against Barack Obama by Lt. Commander Walter Fitzpatrick III, Unites States Navy, RET. The complaint has been duly served upon a United States District Attorney.

Lt. Commander Walter Fitzpatrick III is a graduate of the United States Naval Academy, Class of 1975.

Excerpt from Fitzpatrick’s charge:

We come now to this reckoning. I accuse you and your military-political criminal assistants of TREASON. I name you and your military criminal associates as traitors. Your criminal ascension manifests a clear and present danger. You fundamentally changed our form of government. The Constitution no longer works.

Confident holding your silent agreement and admission, I identify you as a foreign born domestic enemy. My sworn duty Mr. Obama is to stand against what you stand for. You are not my president. You are not my commander in chief.

If you think for one minute we at American Grand Jury and other national movements are not getting to the psyche of Barry Obama think again?This man is still campaigning and telling us how greatly he is concerned about our welfare, security and American heritage. In fact, Barack Obama mocks and laughs at our heritage and all the men and women who have fallen defending our Nation. Is he the “real” Commander-in-Chief or simply “play acting” as the biggest imposter to ever grace the history of our Nation?

This is what Rush Limbaugh had to say about Obama and Memorial Day:

“Monday is Memorial Day, folks. It’s also 40 days from Obama’s birthday. 40 days and 40 nights until we celebrate the birth of The Messiah.”

We at American Grand Jury are still asking the presumed president to stand up, become a man and quit hiding. Before you Mr. Obama are the charges of Eligibility and Treason. You speak of honor and integrity to the our fighting men yet you hide the truth from them as no president has ever done before.

Memorial Day is a day we honor ALL Americans who wore our country’s uniform in defense of her flag, people and Constitution. Without you our Country would have perished long ago. For those of you that think we as a Nation can survive in a world of aggression and terrorism without the American military are sadly mistaken. No nation in the history of the world has ever survived without the sacrifice and allegiance of an armed military.

American Grand Jury wishes to salute you, the American fighting men and women who died for all of us. We give thanks to you and say prayers for all of your families that have suffered as result of your ultimate sacrifice for our Great Nation.

God Bless our fallen Heroes
God Bless the United States of America [emphases original]

Update: Mr. Fitzpatrick goes on to report the following about the Secret Service encounter:

The unannounced and unsolicited Secret Service deployment of Special Agents Finn Ahlberg and Tim Gray to Carl Swenssen’s place of business yesterday afternoon was witnessed.

Gray and Ahlberg sit in the Atlanta, Georgia Secret Service office (Department of Homeland Security).

Ahlberg is described as 6 ft. tall, dark hair, a young Charles Bronson look alike.

Special Agent Ahlberg took Carl’s picture.

Today Special Agent Gray announced in a telephone conversation that the Secret Service was conducting a background check on Carl to determine Carl’s threat level to the impostor Obama.

 

Note well: Carl is enduring a more aggressive and intensive background examination than that experienced by Mr. Obama.

A current listing of grand jury updates and eligibility lawsuits can be found here.

-Phil

63 Comments »

  • Phil says:

    tboy,

    Unfortunately, there is no way to confirm or deny anything from the HI DoH, as any person who is not on the list of allowed individuals to see a particular individual’s private birth certificate will simply not be able to do so.

    As Dr. Polarik has posed the question, “Where’s the transaction that procured the certification of live birth? Who made the request?” There would have to be a receipt of such a transaction somewhere, as it costs money to retrieve such documentation.

    So, as far as I am concerned, I’ve seen plenty of anecdotal and circumstantial evidence either way but nothing conclusive regarding this President’s eligibility. I simply don’t know if he is eligible.

    -Phil

  • tboy says:

    Has the state of Hawaii ever made the claim the document on the web was bogus? Until you get someone from Hawaii with personal knowledge of this subject to come forward with hard copy evidence,you got nothing.Obama has made his birth certificate public. To this date it has not been contested by the state. Without some real hard evidence you become the usurpers. You are the ones hijacking the constitution under the guise of patriotism!

  • HistorianDude says:

    Chuck:

    If you believe a website run mostly by twenty-somethings which has financial ties to a candidate is the appropriate entity to verify that candidate’s eligibility, I have a bridge to sell you…

    Then it’s a very good thing I don’t believe that.

    Instead I believe that a website run by a major American University, that is highly regarded by both major parties for its objectivity and accuracy, and that has exactly zero financial tines to any candidate is a meaningful source of verification for the authenticity of a document.

    You need to do a little research. A natural-born citizen is one who is born to US citizen parents.

    This is errant pseudolaw.

    I’m not talking about the laws that explicitly allow people born out of state to acquire documentation. I am talking about the law that allows a parent to register a birth after the fact by claiming that the child was born in Hawaii, a law that was on the books at the time of Obama’s birth.

    Every State in the union allows for the registration of unattended births, and if a parent is the only witness that’s just the way it goes. It would still be by law absolute legal proof of citizenship at birth.

    I don’t miss anything here. I understand fully that they would have a COLB because they have full documentation in the first place. But their full documentation would show that the documentation was being awarded after the fact simply based on the word of a parent, as opposed to showing that there was actually a documented, attended birth in Hawaii.

    So what? It would still have full force of law.

    I see. You are the first person I have talked to who says outright that even if his full documentation showed that there was no actual attended Hawaiian birth and the documentation was awarded after the fact based solely on a parent’s claim that he was born there, and Hawaiian birth is not proven, that is okay. Well, I can’t argue with that except to say that I strongly disagree. If he can’t prove Hawaiian birth he should not be allowed to rule us.

    Recognizing that this is all hypothetical since we know that Obama was born in hospital, your disagreement matters not one whit in the face of the law. The legal standard for proof is the certificate itself. If he has the certificate, he has proven Hawaiian birth and is eligible to (in your weird choice of words) “rule us.”

  • Chuck says:

    Exactly. That is why the verification of the paper document’s authenticity by FactCheck is meaningful.

    If you believe a website run mostly by twenty-somethings which has financial ties to a candidate is the appropriate entity to verify that candidate’s eligibility, I have a bridge to sell you…

    [Unneeded verbiage], but even the child of two illegal aliens, if born on American soil, is a natural born citizen.

    You need to do a little research. A natural-born citizen is one who is born to US citizen parents.

    I was going to provide a point by point rebuttal to your very, very error filled response, but realized that a key source of your problem is that you actually have a completely bogus understanding of COLBs, who can get them, and what they are.

    First… the laws that allow people born out of state did not exist until 1982. Obama was already 21 before that would have been possible.

    I’m not talking about the laws that explicitly allow people born out of state to acquire documentation. I am talking about the law that allows a parent to register a birth after the fact by claiming that the child was born in Hawaii, a law that was on the books at the time of Obama’s birth.

    Second, if we accept just for the sake of argument that a foreign person could get a Hawaiian COLB, you seem to miss the fact that this would only be true if a foreign born person first got a Hawaiian long form birth certificate.

    I don’t miss anything here. I understand fully that they would have a COLB because they have full documentation in the first place. But their full documentation would show that the documentation was being awarded after the fact simply based on the word of a parent, as opposed to showing that there was actually a documented, attended birth in Hawaii.

    I have very bad news for you. If that is true, then you are completely SOL. Because unattended births happen in every state, all the time, and every state in the union allows birth certificates to be issued for people born without hospitals, doctors, midwives… and those certificates are still considered absolute legal proof of the information they contain. This is also why the State Department does not care about hospitals or doctors or any of that. It is optional information.

    If Obama’s mother flew back from Kenya and lied about his birth, guess what. She got away with it.

    I see. You are the first person I have talked to who says outright that even if his full documentation showed that there was no actual attended Hawaiian birth and the documentation was awarded after the fact based solely on a parent’s claim that he was born there, and Hawaiian birth is not proven, that is okay. Well, I can’t argue with that except to say that I strongly disagree. If he can’t prove Hawaiian birth he should not be allowed to rule us.

    The relevant law is, “Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State.” — U.S. Constitution, Article IV, Section 1. See also 28 USC 1739.

    Sure. Nobody is arguing that other states don’t give full credit to the short form. The point is that he is hiding the long form which may reveal that there is no proof of Hawaiian birth while smugly displaying the short form that a foreign-born citizen could acquire. You may not mind being bent over this way, but I do.

  • HistorianDude says:

    Mick:

    You obviously are not a lawyer. Any document posted on the internet is NOT admissable evidence in a COURT of LAW (it’s hearsay).

    Exactly. That is why the verification of the paper document’s authenticity by FactCheck is meaningful.

    Factcheck is not a substitute for a Court of Law.

    Nobody said it was. It is exactly what it is… an excruciatingly non-partisan and reliable political fact checking organization, part of a highly respected American university.

    We do not need a court of law in the first place on this issue, so why you would be looking for a substitute for one is beyond me.

    Not that it matters anyway, since Barack Obama senior was not a citizen when Barack jr. was born. Thus even if he was born in JFK’s lap while sitting in the Oval Office he could NEVER be a NBC.

    [Unneeded verbiage], but even the child of two illegal aliens, if born on American soil, is a natural born citizen.

  • Sue says:

    Mick,

    “You obviously are not a lawyer. Any document posted on the internet is NOT admissable evidence in a COURT of LAW (it’s hearsay). It is simply laughable to even consider it. Factcheck is not a substitute for a Court of Law. Not that it matters anyway, since Barack Obama senior was not a citizen when Barack jr. was born. Thus even if he was born in JFK’s lap while sitting in the Oval Office he could NEVER be a NBC.”

    HistorianDude did not state or imply that a image of a document posted on the internet would be admissable evidence in a court of law. By the same token, the Indonesian school registration internet image is not either. Now, which of these two “original” documents would be admissable evidence in a court of law?

  • Mick says:

    Historiandude says:
    “This is another fake Birther “factoid.”

    1. FactCheck has such great credibility that it was regularly used as an authoritative fact checking source by both campaigns in the last election. It is recognized universally (with the sole exclusion of Birther’s) as non-partisan and scrupulously fair.

    2. Contrary to another very common fake Birther factoid, it has no relationship whatsoever with Obama.

    3. It is hardly a “left wing site.” The Annenberg Political Fact Check is a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania, established by conservative publisher and philanthropist Walter Annenberg. In the last election, Annenberg’s widow (who continues to fund FactCheck) was a vocal supporter of John McCain.”

    You obviously are not a lawyer. Any document posted on the internet is NOT admissable evidence in a COURT of LAW (it’s hearsay). It is simply laughable to even consider it. Factcheck is not a substitute for a Court of Law. Not that it matters anyway, since Barack Obama senior was not a citizen when Barack jr. was born. Thus even if he was born in JFK’s lap while sitting in the Oval Office he could NEVER be a NBC.

  • earl says:

    Phil says:
    May 29, 2009 at 1:43 pm
    “The Secret Service are actually allowing this kind of behavior to move forward. That must mean there’s nothing wrong with it!”

    No it actually means the Secret Service didn’t think Fitzgerald and Swensson were an immediate threat to the safety of the President at the time they visited them. They took Swensson’s picture. You can bet your bippy the President’s security detail got a copy of the picture that day and he’s programmed into Secret Service facial recognition systems. I don’t think Swensson himself is any threat, he’s more of a paperwork, pound the pavement guy, not an angry-seeming guy. It’s guys like Ben Ferguson that get all riled up and start talking of aggression against the First Family that I hope the Secret Service follows up on:
    “as for obambam and his family, if we citizens are lucky enough to catch him and his spwan while they run like the cowards they are, then let him and his mate be tried and convicted.

    she and their children can be stripped of her USA citizenship. the children can be sent to live with their kenyan or indonesian realatves, and barred forever from the USA.

    obambam and his mate can be exiled on marshal atoll or another US military island guard for the rest of their traitorous lifes. execution as a traitor is too good”
    http://americangrandjury.org/my-friend-and-patriot-carl-swensson-gets-a-visit-from-secret-service/comment-page-1#comment-826

  • earl says:

    Phil says:
    May 29, 2009 at 1:43 pm

    “In fact, the Secret Service specifically stated the contrary — to go ahead with what’s going on.”

    Right. Swensson says he remembered the Secret Service arrived in a silver vehicle and his assistant corrected him that it was actually black. That tells you how accurate is his memory of the event. But even he said the Secret Service told him what he’s doing is not illegal, not they told him to go ahead. I think I’ll make a FOIA request for the Secret Service agents’ notes and report from the interview.

  • HistorianDude says:

    Chuck:

    I was going to provide a point by point rebuttal to your very, very error filled response, but realized that a key source of your problem is that you actually have a completely bogus understanding of COLBs, who can get them, and what they are.

    First… the laws that allow people born out of state did not exist until 1982. Obama was already 21 before that would have been possible.

    Second, if we accept just for the sake of argument that a foreign person could get a Hawaiian COLB, you seem to miss the fact that this would only be true if a foreign born person first got a Hawaiian long form birth certificate. Do you understand that? Let me make sure you do.

    A COLB can never be created unless there is first an original long form that it is certifying to exist. And (this is critical, pay attention) the information on the COLB must be identical to the corresponding information on the long form. That’s what the certification seal and stamp verifies; that the information is identical.

    Your confused argument actually seem to boil down to one that has nothing to do with COLBs at all. Your actual theory seems to be that Obama’s long form is fraudulent. You are arguing that Obama’s mother showed up and the BC was issued based on nothing but her assertion.

    I have very bad news for you. If that is true, then you are completely SOL. Because unattended births happen in every state, all the time, and every state in the union allows birth certificates to be issued for people born without hospitals, doctors, midwives… and those certificates are still considered absolute legal proof of the information they contain. This is also why the State Department does not care about hospitals or doctors or any of that. It is optional information.

    If Obama’s mother flew back from Kenya and lied about his birth, guess what. She got away with it.

    So… your task is ahead of you. You now have to do what no Birther lawyer, no Birther blogger, no Birther talk show host has been able to accomplish:

    Come up with a single piece of evidence that Obama was not born in Hawaii.

    A single one.

    Are you up to it?

  • HistorianDude says:

    Jaqyln Smith:

    Factcheck is not a credible source as most of the Left wing sites are bought and used by the Imposter’s Thug Machine to cover up the lies….Wake up Dude…you too have been duped!!!

    This is another fake Birther “factoid.”

    1. FactCheck has such great credibility that it was regularly used as an authoritative fact checking source by both campaigns in the last election. It is recognized universally (with the sole exclusion of Birther’s) as non-partisan and scrupulously fair.

    2. Contrary to another very common fake Birther factoid, it has no relationship whatsoever with Obama.

    3. It is hardly a “left wing site.” The Annenberg Political Fact Check is a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania, established by conservative publisher and philanthropist Walter Annenberg. In the last election, Annenberg’s widow (who continues to fund FactCheck) was a vocal supporter of John McCain.

    What a fool you are!

    You seem like a nice, Christian woman, Jackie. I recommend Matthew 5:22.

  • brygenon says:

    Chuck says:

    Hawaiian law allowed documentation to be awarded for a child after the fact based only on the word of a parent who said the child was born in Hawaii. A parent could literally walk in with a baby and talk Hawaii into giving them documentation listing Hawaii as the place of birth. I can cite the relevant law if you like.

    The relevant law is, “Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State.” — U.S. Constitution, Article IV, Section 1. See also 28 USC 1739.

    Arguing that State’s records are not good enough is a Constitutional non-starter.

  • Sue says:

    Phil,

    “In fact, the Secret Service specifically stated the contrary — to go ahead with what’s going on.”

    This comment has not been verified.

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