Brygenon said:
“Obama showed Hawaiian Certificate No. 151 1961 010641. You can see nine high-resolution photos of it at:”

Obviously the DNC can’t spell and maybe you can’t see it, but the document clearly says “Certification of Live Birth”

Hold on let me check… looks like I got it right; it says “CERTIFICATE NO.” right there before the number. Also note the very last words are, ‘THIS CERTIFICATE’.

-not the same as a “Certificate of Live Birth”-in form or in truth.

You’re just behind the times. The form Obama showed is what Hawaii now issues. It is stamped with the attestation of the record keeper and embossed with the seal of the state, so under 28 USC 1739 it enjoys the same faith and credit throughout the country as in its state of issue, and Hawaii says it carries the same legal weight as what people call the ‘vault copy’.

“Ron Polarik” is a fake Internet identity. An anonymous expert witness — how gullible can you be?

“Obama showed Hawaiian Certificate No. 151 1961 010641. You can see nine high-resolution photos of it at:”

Obviously the DNC can’t spell and maybe you can’t see it, but the document clearly says “Certification of Live Birth”-not the same as
a “Certificate of Live Birth”-in form or in truth.
See the Diffence:

http://www.obamacrimes.us/Web%20pages/thebirthcertificate1.html

The “People” were taken advantage of, in lack of knowledge with the difference between a Certification and a Certificate. Now, People are on to the “game” and misrepresentations. We want and need the Truth and the evidence.

Why doesn’t Obama just show his birth certificate and school records.

Obama showed Hawaiian Certificate No. 151 1961 010641. You can see nine high-resolution photos of it at:

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Incidentally, I’ve been looking into this quite a while and can state with some confidence that Barack Obama is the only U.S. president to produce his birth certificate in the course of attaining the presidency. If I’m mistaken, please, someone, cite where one of the other 43 presidents offered his birth certificate as Obama did.

I don’t know why he doesn’t show his school records. I know why I do not show mine and my reasons lead me to regard it as a legitimate issue of privacy. That’s just me. How much a candidate has to show to win your vote is entirely up to you.

If he won’t show these documents then I have to believe that he is not a citizen of the US and he is an imposter. It is really simple for him to clear this up but for over a year he has not. Instead he has let it grow until hundreds of thousands are demanding something be done here.

Anyone who actually wants to know where President Obama was born can find out within half a minute, assuming they have decent Internet access. If they have to call or go to the library it could be several minutes. It might even take an hour or so if they live in the boonies or at the library there’s a line.

Reality: The evidence is conclusive; the matter is decided. Questions do not remain open just because some people refuse to face the answers.

Rrobin, it appears you are mistaken, in a criminal case the burden is squarely on the accuser, it is even a greater burden than in a civil case (proof beyond reasonable doubt as against proof by preponderance of evidence) so the law enforcement will first investigate & if they feel there’s a prima facie case give it to the prosecutors office to see if a criminal case has been made then it is taken to court. The standard of proof required here will be proof beyond reasonable doubt & the burden of proving is squarely on the accussers.

Also pixel patriot you wrote, ‘Obama has yet to answer for the very serious crimes he has been accused of for which it appears that there is a mountain of evidence.’

All the allegations against Obama are based on suspicion & not evidence, how do i know this, well everyone making allegation are ALL (except maybe Don Leo) requesting for Obama to produce or permit them to get some documents to prove these allegations, so, so long as he doesnt produce or permit the production of these docs the accusers cant prove their cases. So its not factual true that there is a mountain of evidence but a mountain of suspicion.

Phil,

If you believe his version of the events of why he was court martialed, then I have an original copy of Obama;s Keyan birth certificate to sell you.

And his seemingly never ending crusade against the military justice system since and we have an axe grinder.

Our troops are our heros regardless of what the DOD does. These men and women volunteer for service, really not knowing what they are headed for. I saw that myself when my youngest son was being wooed by the Navy. They made him promises for his signature and when all was said and done, those promises never existed.

I applaud Fitzpatrick for his honesty trying to bring this about and wish him to best of luck.

Why?????…..Because so far he has gotten away with it and my common sense tells me that there is something terribly revealing in them there documents!!!

Speech Limits and the UCMJ

Just thinking…

“Fellas, the Secret Service was just doing their job, which is to protect elected officials. There was a perception that this wacko was making threats, so it was investigated. It was found he’s harmless, and he’s still a free man today. Aaaaaand we’re done here.”

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gumbercules…we’re not done here…Obama has yet to answer for the very serious crimes he has been accused of for which it appears that there is a mountain of evidence.

You appear to be so far removed from reality that you failed to recognize the credentials of:

a)Walter Francis Fitzpatrick, III, United States Navy Retired
or
b)U.S Attorney Russell Dedrick, and Assistant U.S. Attorney Edward Schmutzer, Eastern District, Tennessee

So feel free to move on, however we support these Patriots who have standing in there request for truth and justice.

P.S. I believe you owe Mr. Walter Francis Fitzpatrick, III an apology for calling him a wacko

“His own career was torpedoed by a court-martial more than 20 years ago over his authorization of the use of a ship’s fund to sent an officer to the funeral for his brother, who had been killed by terrorists.”

Wow a nutcase with a huge axe to grind.

You were better off with the simple nutcases.

Yeah, I guess it is “nuts” to go about honoring someone by any reasonable means necessary and asking forgiveness for it later.

I think it’s “nuts” for people to not have an intellectually-stimulating rebuttal regarding the eligibility issue.

-Phil