Lightfoot v. Bowen: Application for Stay Denied; Other Case Info; Dr. Taitz to File for Writ
According to today’s Supreme Court Orders, Dr. Orly Taitz’ case, Lightfoot v. Bowen, has been disposed of accordingly:
08A524
LIGHTFOOT, GAIL, ET AL. V. BOWEN, CA SEC. OF STATE
The application for stay addressed to The Chief Justice and referred to the Court is denied.
This case marks the last of the known cases being actively considered at the Supreme Court. It is possible, however, that certain other cases could be making their way to the high Court, including Mr. Stephen Pidgeon’s case, Broe v. Reed; this case was dismissed without prejudice, meaning that the Plaintiffs could file a subsequent petition if they so desired.
There are also currently two cases actively seeking a sponsoring attorney at the federal level — one requiring a formal petition for court (Ms. Cris Ericson’s Ericson v. Obama) and another having been dismissed in Florida but willing to go further (Mr. Spencer Connerat’s Connerat v. Browning).
Further, in Indiana, a currently pending lawsuit should see some activity by the end of the month – Ankeny v. Daniels. And Dr. Taitz is in the process of getting a military-Plaintiff-based lawsuit together (currently said to have 50 petitioners, one of whom is said to be a blood relative of the President) and filed.
There is also rumored to be a number of other actions occurring across America. These and other information can be found on my current listing of eligibility lawsuits, here.
Also, the Oklahoma State Legislature is coming into session where Rep. Mike Ritze (R-Broken Arrow) is one of a growing number of States offering initiatives to reform the electoral process.
Update: Dr. Taitz is planning on filing a petition for a writ of Certiorari:
For immediate press release
01.26.09.
Dear fellow Americans and Patriots,
as you probably know, in my case Lightfoot v Bowen I filed a petition for emergency stay and asked it to be treated as a writ of certiorari based on Bush v Gore 2000 precedent. The Supreme Court has logged this petition as an application for stay pending filing a writ of certiorari. Since they denied the emergency petition today, it gives me an opportunity to file immediately the actual Writ of Certiorari and it will be done within a few days.
-Phil
One more document as proof of??? Mark another one up for the ineligibility issue. Quite useful.
“I have an FEC document in my possession CERTIFYING that Sen. McCain meets the eligibility requirements for POTUS.”
here is link to McCain & Obama’s certification from Hawaii, RNC,DNC
http://www.scribd.com/doc/9344926/Hawaii-Dems-and-Repubs-Say-Constitutionally-Eligible
note that all documents are noterized, in not true arrest those that signed, a notary signing a phony document can be heavily fined. Try if you can!
I’d be very dubious of anything that Karl Granse suggests. He’s not a lawyer, and his arguments tend to be laughed out of court.
In other words, caveat emptor.
You left out the best part:
New ways to get Rule 11 sanctions imposed.
Carol, you’re wrong. What you have is a document certifying that Sen. McCain is eligible for federal matching funds, which is based on his raising $X from Y number of states, an agreement to allow the FEC to audit his campaign, and various other things.
The FEC is not authorized to determine the eligibility or qualifications of any candidate. The FEC is only authorized to enforce federal campaign finance regulations such as FECA and McCain-Feingold.
And any attempts to do so will be inadmissible, and the attorney who raises the “defense” will probably be sanctioned, while his client is hung from the yardarm. (Do they still hang people from yardarms?)
It would be exceptionally rare for SCOTUS to issue an explanation of why a case is being denied. If they do it for one of these cases, it’s a sign for the other plaintiffs to get out of Dodge, because SCOTUS has decided the joke’s gotten old and someone is gonna get sanctioned.
Yes McCain was asked and showed that he was born on a Naval Base. He also stated that most people could have their BC in hand within a few minutes.
Hello!
NEW, all NEW January 28, 2009
NEW!!! Class Action Lawsuit!
THIS TIME
AGAINST
PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA,
Ericson v President Obama
It’s a whole new story now, that he is President!
New Court,
New Jurisdiction,
New Causes of Action,
New Legal Standing
NOW that he is PRESIDENT!!!
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-202256
Ericson v PRESIDENT Obama
Reality Check,
I will agree that you’ve used Occam’s razor, but unfortunately you’ve shaved too much off of your flow of logic and created unsubstantiated conclusions (remember that, by definition, Occam’s razor is one means of getting to the truth; it in and of itself cannot reasonably be expected to produce the truth).
We’ve already been over the conclusions you’ve brought up at least twice around, so if someone else wishes to discuss where your conclusions are faulty, they are more than free to do so.
Thanks for the comment,
-Phil
If we apply Occam’s infamous razor to the issues discussed here by many then these are the simplest explanations:
President Obama was born in Hawaii as he has said and as the state of the state of Hawaii has verified. To believe otherwise is to invoke a large conspiracy involving tens or hundreds of people and the uncanny clairvoyance of his parents to have falsified birth announcements printed 40 years before his birth was of more than familial significance.
The Supreme Court and other courts are acting in good faith and are applying the law as they see it in denying the motions that have been filed. Again, to believe otherwise you must invoke a significant number of unfounded and unproven allegations.
President Obama is a patriot who truly loves his country. He is neither a Manchurian candidate nor a closet Muslim. He owes allegiance to no foreign power. Again, to believe otherwise must be based in imagination, outright lies, and bias. You may disagree with his views on how to improve our security, restore the leadership of the USA in the world, and how to improve our economic well being but you have no evidence to doubt his sincerity and honesty.
That’s how Occam’s razor works and it works well. It is a valuable tool in the search for truth.
Thanks Phil Ga
I have been reading this and ocrimes for a while and “Phil who” always went through my mind here.
Just-being-Fair
FYI:
I have an FEC document in my possession CERTIFYING that Sen. McCain meets the eligibility requirements for POTUS. This document is in response to Sen. McCain’s request for matching funds for his campaign. I don’t know whether or not Sen. McCain provided his BC for this, but it is no secret that he was born in Panama. Since our Founding Fathers never definitively defined “natural born”, we will never know what they had in mind re: Sen. McCain’s situation without SCOTUS intervention or a Constitutional amendment putting this issue to rest.
No, that not what Anonymous wrote, nor is it what Judge Surrick wrote. Both have made the point that Congress can amend the laws that grant standing to citizens when there is an injury common to the electorate at large.
Stop adopting everything these “armchair lawyers” post on these blogs. They are asserting and then copy-pasting erroneous legal principles, e.g., “now everyone has standing” or “we the people having standing.” You don’t. The SCOTUS has made clear that THE MORE PEOPLE WHO ARE HARMED, THE LESS LIKELY THAT STANDING CAN BE DEMONSTRATED. ONLY THE LITIGANT WHO IS PARTICULARLY AND UNIQUELY INJURED IS THE ONE WITH THE GOLDEN TICKET. You must read and understand the law that discusses jurisdiction and standing if you have any hope of furthering your cause. Otherwise, you are just spinning wheels.
Reality Check,
This is one of the few times when we completely agree with each other.
That was Latin for, “entities must not be multiplied beyond necessity.” I also like the corollary — similarly from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam’s_razor — that states, “Pluralitas non est ponenda sine necessitate,” which means, “plurality should not be posited without necessity.”
And, of course, the razor of Occam itself, “the explanation of any phenomenon should make as few assumptions as possible, eliminating those that make no difference in the observable predictions of the explanatory hypothesis or theory;” the shorter version: “All other things being equal, the simplest solution is the best.”
Thanks for the comment,
-Phil
Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem
This is advice that those who think the Supreme Court has been paid off, is corrupt, hates the Constitution, and that there is a huge conspiracy afoot to conceal President Obama’s shady past should heed.
Bob,
My apologies for the confusion. This is “right-side” Phil, or Phil in GA, not Phil Berg. His web site is obamacrimes.com.
Back to the issue. The reason why I’m asking for some further substantiation/corroboration is because conspiracy theories can never be proven — hence why they’re conspiracy theories. However, in the case of the President’s eligibility, that can be proven.
Now, regarding the concept that there may literally be an intelligence and media blackout, of sorts, on the President’s eligibility. The reason why I’m asking for further substantiation is because that is one heck of a claim to make. While I realize that you may know of someone who’s well-decorated from the Air Force, even folks in the military can be prone to theories, from time to time. Also, if there’s something that sinister going on, what is this friend of yours doing knowing about it?
Why doesn’t your friend sign an affidavit as such in order to provide for a grand jury against the government? Do you see where this could all go if there’s someone who’s willing to go to the mat for such an audacious (I know, overused term) claim as this?
Believe you me, the opponents of eligibility already have enough to chew on; there’s no point in providing more fodder unless someone’s willing to make it official.
Thanks for the comment,
-Phil
So, then it looks like we will have to wait until 2010 when more Republicans will be elected. It is inevitable.
Phil
o I may have missed the obvious but every time I see “Phil” must wonder if it is “Phil Berg” whose work and efforts I respect. Anyway not sure why Phil thought there was “mere conjecture” if he was referring to Larry the retired Air Force MSGT, i.e., “I would like to see some substantiation of such a claim instead of mere conjecture”.
Larry wrote, “I have never posted before but know many FBI, Secret Service Agents, CIA and many other Federal Agents who have told me they are not to discuss this issue about Obama or they will be terminated from employment”.
This is about as substantiated as you’re going to get.
The name of the law game is to play the play. Anyone that has challenged the system/King (remember lawyer Gandhi) knows that there is NO RULE OF LAW IN AMERICA. The way the scotus (lower case intentional) have dismissed o birth cert. cases is std op’g pos or SOP. They have been dismissing each and every petition labeled Tax Protester case for years not to mention the dribble coming from the circuit courts.
About the conspiracy though – (those of you that know nothing about the fed. Reserve conspiracy may want to skip this because for you there may be no conspiracies) a revisit of Rev Lindsey Williams recount of conversations with banker/oil exec’s might shed some light on the “3rd worlding” of America.
For you lawyers out there – How many of you have challenged the UnConstitutional “u.s. trustee system”. So patently unconstitutional but yet the lawyers play the play.
Lastly maybe really off topic but maybe not as I look at the Sydney theater picture at the link Phil provided. Why have WE sold OUR AIRWAYS (mainstream media) to a Foreigner? Oh sure he is now an American with only allegiance thereto. Sure. What if there was really a free press? Would we be talking this talk?
Folks, just an inoccent question, was Mccain asked to produce his ‘vault’ copy ? Was Bush ?, was any other president for that matter? Why is the bar for proving citizenship (for some) higher for Obama than for other presidents ?
The Supreme Court’s job is not to dispel every single piece of hersey or consiperacy theory out there. As far as the judges are considered, there is already a process in place to verify a candidate’s constitutional eligibility to serve as president. Oaama has passed that process. No amount of catch phrases like ‘wildly rumored’ / ’strong suspicions’ or saber rattling for the next 8 years (yes fully excpect Obama to be elected for a second term), will change that one iota.
SCOTUS is as corrupt as possible. The land of the free and the home of the brave is no more. There is no place left to go to to escape from these criminals. The founding fathers make laws that these cronies refuse to uphold.
Pardonnez-moi, Phil. L’orthographe du mot prieur est comme il faut, ceci: POSSESSION.
Une phrase, par exemple: “On the January 21, 2009 broadcast of National Public Radio’s ‘All Things Considered,’ the reporter stated that Press Secretary Gibbs joked of having the actual Birth Certificate in his POSSESSION.”
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=99681708&sc=emaf
If I may, from one ‘Joe’ to another, ask: “Mr. Biden, why don’t you appoint ‘Joe the Plumber’ as V.P., once you realize that you are Acting President, under the Twentieth Amendment? At least, he ought to meet the criteria for eligibility, under our Constitution!”
The We The People Foundation is where you will find the people that defend our constitution.
Our government is out of control. They ignore the US Constitution.
Continental Congress 2009 is necessary to bring the government back in line with the constitution. (Don’t worry. We know all about the dangers of a constitutional convention (Con-Con)). A Continental Congress is much different and will protect the constitution rather than putting it in jeopardy.
An idea thats time has come.
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cpabooks,
That is exactly why I posted Dr. Taitz’ update in this posting.
This particular case — asking for an injunction — as been denied. However, she can obviously try petitioning for a writ on a different case, which I believe she’s going to do.
Thanks for the comment,
-Phil
Phil,
It’s not over for Lightfoot. Only the “Stay” was denied. Per Dr. Orly today Jan 26:
“The Supreme Court has logged this petition as an application for stay pending filing a writ of certiorari. Since they denied the emergency petition today, it gives me an opportunity to file immediately the actual Writ of Certiorari and it will be done within a few days.”
If you want to understand why these cases are being denied review, read the precedents on citizen/voter standing, especially those following Baker v. Carr. As Justice Scalia wrote in his dissenting opinion in Federal Election Commission v. Akins, 524 U.S. 11, 35 (1998):
“What is noticeably lacking in the Court’s discussion of our generalized-grievance jurisprudence is all reference to two words that have figured in it prominently: “particularized” and “undifferentiated.” See Richardson, supra, at 177, 94 S.Ct., at 2946-2947; Lujan, 504 U.S., at 560, and n. 1, 112 S.Ct., at 2136, and n. 1. “Particularized” means that “the injury must affect the plaintiff in a personal and individual way.” Id., at 560, n. 1, 112 S.Ct., at 2136, n. 1. If the effect is “undifferentiated and common to all members of the public,” Richardson, supra, at 177, 94 S.Ct., at 2946 (internal quotation marks and citations omitted), the plaintiff has a “generalized grievance” that must be pursued by political, rather than judicial, means.
In other words, when the entire electorate — “we the people” — has a grievance, the courts are not the appropriate branch to address it. Congress is. As long as these suits continue to be filed, the federal courts will continue to dismiss them. That is SCOTUS’s way of telling voters, “Go to Congress if you want relief.”
Judge Surrick, in his opinion in Berg’s case, stated this and quoted from SCOTUS’s decision in United States v. Richardson, but all of you griped about it and contended the judge was wrong. Well, he wasn’t. Now you have wasted what — four months and countless dollars — and you propose to waste more.
The solution is to go to the legislative branch.
What ever happened to the phrase “To Defend our Constitution”.
The Supreme Court Justices should be charged with Treason, along
with “All” the other’s in Office who allowed a Usurper President to
be sworn in.
All Military personel should seek to terminate their enlistment
with Honour and benefit’s unless Obama show’s “All” credentials.
Sooner, or later a Defense Lawyer for a “AWOL” soldier will make
ground for a “case” of Obama’s citizenship and eligibility to be
Commander in Cheif………
Phil,
The question here should be how much $$$ was given to them on the bench so they would not pursue this avenue.
Also how much $$$ was given to the conservative radio talk show hosts so they would not pursue the citizenship avenue?
The financial bailouts of the banks from the government may just be a cover story for those liberals in government who have paid off the conservatives in government and media so they will not touch the citizenship agenda.
Sounds to much like an interesting movie plot right out of The Manchurian Candidate.
Pax,
+Stonewall
Is is time?
“Ever so often, the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants” Thomas Jefferson
Gina,
I have said and will maintain the position that the importance of the meeting was ceremonial at best. I don’t think that Dr. Taitz is going to get anywhere with any kind of request for records of such a meeting — of records even exist.
Thanks for the question,
-Phil
Constitution of the State of Florida, excerpt from Article VI:
SECTION 2. Electors.–Every citizen of the United States who is at least eighteen years of age and who is a permanent resident of the state, if registered as provided by law, shall be an elector of the county where registered.
History.–Am. proposed by Constitution Revision Commission, Revision No. 11, 1998, filed with the Secretary of State May 5, 1998; adopted 1998.
SECTION 3. Oath.–Each eligible citizen upon registering shall subscribe the following: “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will protect and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of Florida, and that I am qualified to register as an elector under the Constitution and laws of the State of Florida.”
Mr. Connerat served as a Citizen and as a Florida elector by challenging the impending Electoral Vote, in Tallahassee, on December 15, 2008. At the time, Petitioner was in posession of his Voter Information card, issued by Deborah Clark, Supervisor of Elections, County of Pinellas, State of Florida.
Jim Delaney,
According to the Orders page, there was no opinion issued with the denial.
Thanks for the question,
-Phil
As they say in the south, there is still alot of fight in that ole girl. Orly back at it again. She knows how to take a negative and turn it into a positive.
This is part of a posting Orly placed on her blog today:
Monday, January 26, 2009
Urgent-need affidavits for motion to compel for the Supreme Court, Senate and Congressional Judicial committee hearings and FBI and US attorney
For immediate press release 01.26.09.
Dear fellow Americans and Patriots,
as you probably know, in my case Lightfoot v Bowen I filed a petition for emergency stay and asked it to be treated as a writ of certiorari based on Bush v Gore 2000 precedent. The Supreme Court has logged this petition as an application for stay pending filing a writ of certiorari. Since they denied the emergency petition today, it gives me an opportunity to file immediately the actual Writ of Certiorari and it will be done within a few days.
However, a number of things have transpired lately.
First, an exparte private closed door meeting between 8 out of 9 Justices of the Supreme Court (Justice Samuel Alito was not present) with Mr. Barry Soetoro-Barack Hussein Obama. I will file a motion to the Chief Justice to compel the records of this private meeting, that was held only a few days before my case was supposed to be heard, where the plaintiffs state that Mr. Soetoro-Obama is illegitimate for presidency due to the fact that his father was a foreign subject and there is no evidence that Mr. Obama was really born in Hawaii, since the state of Hawaii statute 338 allows foreign born children of Hawaiian residents to obtain Hawaiian certification of live birth and such certification can be obtained based on an affidavit of one relative only.
http://www.drorly.blogspot.com/
I had a bad feeling when the news reported he met with the Justices before his inauguration.
Phil, what is your impression of the meeting?
Thank you.
Phil,
Any expressed or generally understood basis for the case’s being denied? Anf if there is no expressed reason for dismissal, does the case still have legs at all?
I’m extremely disappointed and,yes, deeply concerned.
Jim
This morning, I read a post over at ZachJonesIsHome blog and became very disheartened. It seems that no judge – SCOTUS or otherwise – is going to take any of these cases because of the threats (by whom? I don’t know) that they will lose their jobs.
I wrote this post: Talk Wisdom: Lord, “We The People” Need A Miracle! Then I found out that Orly’s case was denied. Didn’t surprise me. But once again, I was deeply disappointed.
But my hopes are up again. Perhaps the combination of what Betrayal: OBAMA BECAME A U.S. CITIZEN AT AGE 19 has exposed and the following idea from a commenter will get the masses moving against Obama.
Comment copy:
Quote:
“From the look of things now, we seem to be blossoming a healthy criminal conspiracy case with far reaching effects that go back many years. We know those in the mix had to “know” and hopefully we will be able to prove their parts. We may need a long chain to work down or bring the Constitution to it’s full taxation of strength. Our framers had some inspired dreams of the future but they surly couldn’t have seen this nightmare coming.”
To Lawyer from Missouri:
I wish I knew how to get a hold of you here in my home state. You’re not a re-enactment guy in KC are you? Anyway, there may be an ace in the hole…
Karl Granse has been adamant about approaching the courts – sui juris and in propria persona, with the standing issue being resolved by the Citizen-plaintiff’s capacity as an actual elector (not in the Electoral College sense) and not simply a voter. The premise is that standing has been sacrificed in a myriad of voluntary contractual obligations, literally having signed rights away. Such a Citizen who reserves those rights and/or rescinds those offending contracts falls under the constitutional construct and should have standing. Anyone else lacks standing as (technically) a “person” and by not being a Citizen of the several States.
If lawsuits won’t work, then beat them at their own game. Since the rule of law means nothing than use Mob rule to prevail.
Get the hard proof & expose the fraud using the media.
An exposé on the real Obama should be very enlightening to the unknowing masses. It would also implicate all the public officials who helped perpetrate the fraud.
Check this out:
http://www.bunge.go.ke/downloads/Tenth%20Parl%201st%20Session/Hansard/20.01.09.pdf
Congratulations of President Obama on his Inauguration-….”I have no doubt, being an American of Kenyan decent is a matter of our own national importance …” “some are saying that for the duration of Barack Obama’s administration of presidency, we should consider ourselves a State of the USA because one of our own sits in the White House, ”
“We should not just see him in the light of a foreign Head of State but one to which we claim to be ours. I see my good friend looking at me and he says it should be the other way round, that it is not Kenya that should be part of the USA during the administration of Barack Obama but America that should be part of the greater Kenya.”
“This country has a particular reason why it should celebrate. I would like to congratulate the people of the United States Of America (USA) for making the bold decision to give this opportunity to a Kenyan-American. The blood that flows in him is Kenyan.”
“We want Mr. Obama to help us reign in on African dictators and impunity. Mr Obama can do it! We expect him to be a partner and help us wipe out impunity, because in Africa elections can be conducted and won and a loser refuse to leave office. One case is Mr. Mugabe. I would expect Mr. Obama to next week, even militarily oust him, because our people are dying. That is my expectation from Mr. Barack Obama!”
“If they had allocated the land that Obama was supposed to have been allocated by his father tradionally in Alego Usonga and Obama decided to settle there,definitely, he would be running America from this country!”
Pete,
I’m not so sure how private that info is:
http://www.australia.to/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4207:chief-justice-roberts–keeper-of-americas-future&catid=53:jones-zach&Itemid=122
I would like to see some substantiation of such a claim instead of mere conjecture.
Thanks for the comment,
-Phil
Well All I can say is the Parliament of the Republic of Kenya claims Obama is from their soil….
I don’t know who to believe any more.
Parliament of the Republic of Kenya
NATIONAL ASSEMBLY OFFICIAL REPORT [Kenya] Wednesday, 5th November, 2008
The House met at 9.00 a.m.
-Snip-
House Adjourn To Discuss Election Of Mr. Barrack Obama
Ms. Odhiambo: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. It is not on this issue. I stand on a point of order under Standing Order No.20 to seek leave for adjournment of the House to discuss the American presidential election results.
(Applause)
Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country. Every other country in this continent is celebrating the Obama win. It is only proper and fitting that the country which he originates from should show the same excitement, pomp and colour. I, therefore, seek leave of the House that we adjourn to discuss the issue.
Mr. Deputy Speaker: Order! Order!
Ms. Odhiambo, Standing Order No.20 says:- “Any hon. Member may at any time rise in his place and seek leave to move the adjournment of the House for purposes of discussing a definite matter of urgent national importance.”
This means national “Kenyan” importance. The election of Senator Barrack Obama-
– An hon. Member: It is President Obama! Mr. Deputy Speaker: president-elect has not been sworn-in yet. The election of President-elect Obama is of utmost national importance to the United States of America. Ms. Odhiambo, you are a lawyer. You had better be very careful where you transgress between watching your own sovereignty and what can be interpreted in some quarters as some form of treason. We appreciate and respect him. We are happy and we were looking forward to his election. It is not a matter of urgent definite national importance to Kenya.
In any case, whereas the ruling from the Chair would not have been any different, you are supposed to approach the Chair at least two hours in advance and give a notice of that information. Nonetheless, let us hold our horses. Let the excitement not make us look like American citizens. We are citizens of the sovereign Republic of Kenya.
-snip-
“The Vice-President and Minister for Home Affairs (Mr. Musyoka): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, while thanking you for that Communication from the Chair, I want to join the rest of the world and, indeed, all of us – and it is understandable that the rest of African Continent and the whole world is celebrating a dawn of a new era—
As we congratulate the American people and more, specifically, Senator Barrack Obama who is now President-elect, it is important to reflect on the journey that he has travelled so far. When countries get their foreign policy right, a lot of hope can ensue. What I have in mind is the famous Kennedy airlifts of the 1960s when many Kenyans were, due the friendship with the then Government and the late Tom Joseph Mboya, given the opportunity to travel to the United States of America as a result of [The Vice-President and Minister for Home Affairs]
which we now have an African American of Kenyan origin being President-elect. This is momentous. At 4.00 o’clock this morning, Senator Barrack Obama called me at midnight and told me: “Mr. Vice President, could you make sure you sort out this problem?” I want to assure him that the problem has since been sorted out. (Several hon. Members stood up)
Mr. Deputy Speaker: You are all out of order! Next Order! Order! Hon. Members,”
-end snip-
http://www.bunge.go.ke/downloads/Tenth%20Parl%201st%20Session/Hansard/5.11.08A.pdf
Phil,
Private information relayed to me has been that NO case will be heard concerning these issues, valid or not. Many have sacrificed to preserve the Constitution, but I think rule of law and freedom have become an illusion in the USA. The next landmark will be if the POTUS starts his own police force. When you see this, you will know that the Constitution is done and ‘We the People’ is no more. The current changes mirror Germany in the late 1920’s and 1930’s. We have truly lost something, and most Americans don’t even know it.