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Guantanamo Detention Facilities to Close in a Year

The Executive Order; coverage from TheHill.com and ABCNews.com. I’m not sure what the logic is in the President — on recommendation from top people in the Administration — closing down the detention facilities in Cuba. Not only this, but the President is also expected to issue an order closing down CIA-sponsored detention centers around the world.

Of course, one of the key questions is going to be, where will the detainees go? Perhaps the following article from McClatchy.com provides some insight (hint: for you folks in South Carolina, Kansas and California, you could very well be living next to a terrorist–er, “enemy combatant!”):

WASHINGTON – President Obama’s decrees Thursday on the detention and interrogation of accused terrorists increase the likelihood that some detainees now held at the U.S. military prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba will be moved to South Carolina in a year or less.

On his second full day in office, Obama directed that the controversial Guantanamo detention facility be closed “no later than one year from the date of the (executive) order.”

Senior Pentagon sources in November identified the Naval Consolidated Brig in North Charleston as a possible home for detainees transferred from Guantanamo Bay, along with Fort Leavenworth in Kansas and Camp Pendleton in California.

“Transferring detainees from Guantanamo Bay to U.S. soil will endanger American lives,” Sen. Jim DeMint, a Greenville Republican, said of Obama’s order to shut down the military prison. “If the new administration tries to move these known terrorists to South Carolina, they should be ready for a fight.”

Why is the President shutting this part of the naval base down? If the answer has something to do with “enhanced interrogation techniques,” wouldn’t legislation be phenomenally simpler?

Even better question: If you had the responsibility to ensure America’s safety and you had reason to believe that an individual under your control possessed knowledge that would stop a cataclysmic event from happening on American soil, wouldn’t you do anything you could to get that information?

That was a loaded question; your answer directly confirms your specific position on the global war on terror.

-Phil

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16 Responses to “Guantanamo Detention Facilities to Close in a Year

  • 1
    JeffM
    January 23rd, 2009 01:49

    This new “administration” needs to watch itself. Allowing the enemies of the U.S. into the U.S. can be construed by many to be an act of pure, unadulterated treason:

    § 2381. Treason
    “Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.”

    I’d say that allowing our enemies to hang out in the U.S. would constitute “aid and comfort”, wouldn’t you?

    And where is our U.S. Military in all this???? This was a Military Order as it pertains to a Military installation.

  • 2
    Liberty
    January 23rd, 2009 08:42

    Phil,

    I would do whatever it takes to keep Americans safe.

    I’m apalled at Obama’s EO on this but I’m not surprised.

    The people who applaud this action are ignorant and foolish if they think America is safer today.

    And for those who think that America will be viewed more kindly because of this, your wrong. WE will be perceived as weak because of this action and because of the President we chose.

  • 3
    Geoff
    January 23rd, 2009 10:38

    Where’s the evidence that torture is effective, that in the ticking time bomb scenario, it will produce reliable, helpful information? I don’t recall reading that any of the acts of torture performed on captives in American detention provided any useful information — if there were such reports, please direct me to them. 24 isn’t real life.

  • 4
    Phil
    January 23rd, 2009 11:00

    Geoff,

    I’ll first say that I’ve never watched an episode of “24″ (no reason, just simply haven’t). Secondly, in my opinion, I believe the best form of intelligence is otherwise known as “HUMINT,” or human intelligence.

    Regarding torture, first of all, I don’t think there’s a categorically and specifically laid-out definition of the term. However, many folks, such as Sen. McCain, take the stance that since they “know what it’s like” (bless him a thousand times over for what he and others went through), they would say that it should never be used again, certainly not be a noble society such as America.

    Further, as you’ve requested, I’m not aware of any reports (there may, in fact, be, but I’m simply not aware at this time) that would conclusively show that said torture works every time.

    Therefore, much of this is a difference of opinion. I believe in the concept of profiling; this is a fancy term for “people-watching.” Further, those who know anything about the concept of profiling (even though it’s been given a bum rap lately) will tell you that it helps to tighten the scope of potential “hot buttons” to be pushed on an individual that are more likely to produce information.

    Thanks for the questions,

    -Phil

  • 5
    ??????????
    January 23rd, 2009 14:51

    Aw!!! Hug a Terrorist. Terrorists don’t question, they just bribe, extort and then decapitate. We are at war. We should get whatever information we can get and anyway we can get it. The courst are interfering with our military and safety. He’s trying to make us look good to the rest of the world – at who’s expense???

    I wonder what they think when he calls the heads of these countries with his background in Foreign Relations – does he make himself look good???

  • 6
    Lawyer from Missouri
    January 23rd, 2009 16:56

    I have an idea here (Proposed Alternative):

    Why don’t Obama (Usurper in Chief) keep Gitmo open, but allow them to have rights as American Citizens through the 10 amendments in Gitmo (Guantanomo Bay, Cuba). He can have it youtube.com to his office and oversee with his pro civil liberty staff that their rights are not being violated.

    The issue is saftey of American citizens and whether our state courts are capable of handling terrorists who have admitted to overt acts to the USA.

    This is very dangerous and I assure you, the courts in the states are not equipped.

  • 7
    riddlemethis
    January 23rd, 2009 18:51

    Phil–Please post the story about John McCain from Atlashrugs. This should be up on your site.

    Friday, January 23, 2009
    MCCAIN IS PRESIDENT HUSSEIN’S # I SENATE ALLY
    We had to get behind this strutz during the election after the libtard media picked our candidate — now this? What an embarrassment to the party — the only shot, the only hope this country has is the small opposition to the radical socialist agenda being rammed down our throat.

    McCain Now Obama’s No. 1 Senate Ally Newsmax

    GOP Sen. John McCain is positioning himself to be one of President Barack Obama’s strongest supporters, effectively giving Democrats the votes they need to override any GOP attempt to block the new administration’s legislative agenda.

    Obama heaped warm praise on his GOP rival during a dinner held in McCain’s honor the day before the inauguration, calling him a hero.

    Heaped indeed.

    Insiders duly noted McCain was granted a prime spot on the dais at the inauguration, sandwiched in a seat between White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel and Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

    The day after the inauguration, Obama and McCain spoke again at the National Prayer breakfast.

    It was all part of Obama’s ongoing charm offensive to woo those on the other side of the aisle. The effort was apparently well received by the maverick senator from Arizona, who throughout his career has shown a proclivity for teaming up with Democrats on legislation.

    Immediately following the news that Obama was shutting down the Guantanamo prison camp, McCain joined with Sen. Lindsay Graham, R-S.C., to praise Obama’s decision.

    “We support President Obama’s decision to close the prison at Guantanamo, reaffirm America’s adherence to the Geneva Conventions, and begin a process that will, we hope, lead to the resolution of all cases of Guantanamo detainees,” they said in a joint statement.

    Cracked brain.

    While the two senators were not unequivocal in their endorsement – they pointed out that other issues related to interrogations and detainees remain to be resolved – the endorsement set pundits’ keyboards aflutter nonetheless.

    “The move suggests that McCain views himself as a bridge between the Democratic president and Republicans in Congress and a major player in the expected fights over passage of Obama’s agenda,” wrote the Washington Post’s Chris Cillizza.

    Longtime McCain political adviser John Weaver indicated Republicans should get used to the idea of a McCain-Obama nexus – and took a swipe at conservatives in the process.

    “When there is agreement between the two, President Obama will have no greater ally,” Weaver told Cillizza. “The John McCain of today is the John McCain who could have made the [presidential] race closer. The country is in a mood to get things accomplished and problems solved and John has clearly embraced that spirit.”

    There have been signs of late that McCain has returned to the maverick inclinations that have long antagonized some conservatives. During the hearings to confirm Hillary Clinton as secretary of state, McCain chided his fellow Republicans for dragging things out.

    “I remind all my colleagues: We had an election. I think the message the American people are sending us now is they want us to work together, and get to work,” he lectured.

    What about the 60,000,000 folks that voted that RINO McCain?

    McCain’s focus on getting along with the new powers that be in Washington will make life much more difficult for Senate Republicans, who are barely clinging to the 41 votes they need to stave off a Democratic override of a GOP filibuster. It takes three-fifths of the Senate, or 60 votes, to shut down debate and bring a bill to a vote.

    Sen. GOP leader John Cornyn was asked if he has any idea how far McCain might go in snubbing his fellow Republicans.

    Cornyn told the Post: “In a word, no. I have no sense. I’m ready for whatever happens.”

  • 8
    glsmarlton
    January 23rd, 2009 21:33

    I feel that McCain was chosen to lose against that one and this entire election process was a set up from the beginning by the liberal media and the lib dems. They all put that one in office–this was a bought and paid for presidency.

    McCain is playing both sides and we need him on our side. This little trick today from that one with the drone in Pakistan is just the beginning. Could that be considered an act of war on our part?

    The republicans are standing down and cowering to that one and without them we don’t have a 2 party government, so in essence all I can add is if the republicans dont take a stand then we republicans have no representation and thus we should all stop paying taxes of all kinds. This government is nothing but an adult kindergarten playing musical chairs. We are nothing but a joke and an embarrassement.

    Its time we stand together and take back our government that is for the people, by the people and of the people.

  • 9
    Carol Greenberg
    January 24th, 2009 00:02

    The Gitmo Boys & Girls (are there any girls?) may be going to PA. Murtha says he’ll take ‘em.

    “Murtha audaciously expressed his hope to house Gitmo detainees after President Barack Obama circulated his draft executive order to shut the facility down by the end of the year. “Sure, I’d take ‘em,” Murtha glibly retorted. “They’re no more dangerous in my district than in Guantanamo.” Murtha blustered that there was “no reason not to put ‘em in prisons in the United States and handle them the way they would handle any other prisoners.”

    Above courtesy of Michelle Malkin. How many of you guys live in PA? Maybe you’ll be seeing more signs in your area that say “DO NOT PICK UP HITCH HIKERS!”

  • 10
    JeffM
    January 24th, 2009 11:17

    Carol,

    Perhaps the sign should now say:

    “DO NOT PICK UP TERRORISTS”

  • 11
    ??????????
    January 24th, 2009 11:21

    Let me get this straight in my mind.

    We can take Social Security and Medicare from the elderly leaving them with a poor quality of life. These are programs for which workers have paid into all of their working days. We can give lots of money (welfare) to those who won’t work.

    We can kill babies (infanticide) and we can drop missiles on Pakistan killing innocent people.

    But, we can’t torture our enemy, not humane he says.

    What’s wrong with this picture?????

  • 12
    Lawyer from Missouri
    January 24th, 2009 15:43

    Do you think the UIC Obama would back down after the announcement of this on Drudge Report?

    Two ex-Guantanamo inmates appear in Al-Qaeda video
    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hZfIcWnHqBz4kQR90lC_pXaHeW4Q

    WASHINGTON (AFP) — Two men released from the US “war on terror” prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba have appeared in a video posted on a jihadist website, the SITE monitoring service reported.

    One of the two former inmates, a Saudi man identified as Abu Sufyan al-Azdi al-Shahri, or prisoner number 372, has been elevated to the senior ranks of Al-Qaeda in Yemen, a US counter-terrorism official told AFP.

    Three other men appear in the video, including Abu al-Hareth Muhammad al-Oufi, identified as an Al-Qaeda field commander. SITE later said he was prisoner No. 333.

    A Pentagon spokesman, Commander Jeffrey Gordon, on Saturday declined to confirm the SITE information.

    “We remain concerned about ex-Guantanamo detainees who have re-affiliated with terrorist organizations after their departure,” said Gordon.

  • 13
    Ferdie
    January 25th, 2009 00:35

    Obama’s approach to terrorism will be catch and release. American soldiers are risking their lives to catch terrorists who will be released or will face civil trials. American tax payers will foot the bill to provide attorneys for the terrorists. Meanwhile, if American troops shoot back or kill terrorists they may face criminal charges.

    If SCOTUS does not hear the upcoming cases, we need to get more cases with American soldiers as plaintiffs. If they do not have standing – who does? Our soldiers are risking their lives to defend the Constitution. They need to know their commander an cheif is eligible for the office.

    If we do not get relief then we need to explore grand juries as proposed by Leo Donofrio in which he cities the writings of Justice Scalia.

  • 14
    ??????????
    January 25th, 2009 01:15

    Quite an interesting article re: Obama Family. Read all the way to the end including comments.

    http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2009/01/14/barack-obamas-family-in-kenya-killing-one-another-due-to-a-fight-to-built-a-mosque-muslim-friends-to-fund-the-building-at-obamas-home-in-kagelo/

    There are other interesting articles at this website as well including API Editor’s letter to President Obama requesting a seat in White House News Briefings. I don’t like any of this.

  • 15
    Carol Greenberg
    January 25th, 2009 13:08

    Yeah. We aren’t allowed to make them too “uncomfortable.” Can’t play loud rock music to them, can’t keep the lights on at night. Can’t pour water down their nose. They’ll get the best attorneys, eventually they’ll be put in a work-release program. We’ll see them getting SSI, food stamps, health insurance; the whole nine yards. Then they’ll be allowed to bring all their family members here and we’ll be footin’ the bill for them too. Probably fly them here 1st class to boot.

    To Jeff:

    You were right. I had the sign wrong.

  • 16
    Carol Greenberg
    January 25th, 2009 18:39

    With seven state SoS’s certifying Nicaraguan-born candidate Calero on the ballot for POTUS, I’m sure it won’t be long until we see one of the Gitmo Guys on the ballot. I live in Ohio, and it’s harder to get a driver’s license here than to get on the POTUS ballot.

    Hey SoS OH Jennifer!! Are you listening? Does this give you any ideas?

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